Jocko Podcast 166 w/ Echo Charles: Trust and Be Wise. Psychology for the Fighting Man pt. 3

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Jocko Podcast 166 w/ Echo Charles: Trust and Be Wise. Psychology for the Fighting Man pt. 3

this is Jocko podcast number 166 with echo Charles and me Jocko Willing good evening echo good evening and we are rolling straight into part three podcast number three of the psychology for the fighting man what you should know about yourself and others so if you haven’t listened to the previous two podcasts they’re about this same book and there’s so much information that we split it up because it was going long and this part these couple sections here are really what I was originally going to cover but then I figured I’d cover it all and next thing you know this turned in a free podcast series and this section is called the soldiers personal adjustment and here we go back to the book in a Dem in a democratic civilian army millions of men are suddenly abruptly thrown into a new way of life it is in many ways a tough life men used to going their own ways choosing their own jobs associates neckties times for going to bed now have to follow military orders about all these things men accustomed to a comfortable litter of belongings around them find the bare neatness of Police barracks hard to get used to those used to steam heat warm shower baths and breakfast eggs cook just three and a half minutes at home may be pretty uncomfortable when they have to put up with a bed on the ground and cold water for shaves there is moreover no privacy in the army if a man over sleeps and his corporal dumps him out of his bunk the whole company knows about it if he looks at his girl’s photograph a lot they know that to the business of living in a goldfish bowl and having to take razzing from his fellow soldiers is about the hardest thing for a sensitive recruit to get used to that’s a fact so here we go these are all just welcome to the military you’re gonna you’re not gonna get to eat what you want to eat you’re not gonna get to sleep when you want to sleep you’re not gonna get to keep what you want to keep think about those are personal freedoms that everybody cherishes they’re all gone even your privacy you get to when I went to Navy boot camp you go in the bathrooms there’s just stalls there’s no I’m sorry there’s just toilets there’s no stalls yeah you just sit down next to everyone else and do your business yeah the privacy is gone yeah not every man of course meets hardships for the first time when he goes into the army some of known hunger and cold and hard work some never saw a flush toilet or a shower bath before they got to camp some never had a good square meal well cooked for them the Army is providing luxuries that’s true too not probably is definitely not as true now yeah as it was in 1942 because in 1942 some people were still living out the bush here in America and there’s a lot less people still living in the bush in America now they’re still out there though but farmer lawyer banker section hand college man or man of little schooling they all must adjust themselves to an entirely new way of living all must learn new habits young men may find it easier to make the adjustment than older men because they are ordinarily a little more flexible with habits a little less fixed that’s for sure if you think you’re gonna join the military at some point join when you’re as young as possible no attachments and I was so just dumb I guess for lack of a better word I just didn’t care about anything when I came in there like you we’re gonna shave your head we’re gonna take all your silly it’s nothing like whatever take it away I don’t care but most men can fit themselves into the new life and work without too much friction those who do not those who do it most easily are the ones who accept the new life at once throw off civilian habits with civilian clothes and put themselves wholeheartedly into becoming soldiers one of the hardest adjustments come with a loss of contact with family and friends the soldier who misses friends at home is slow about making new friends at camp so there you go if you are homesick what you should do is make new friends the army is liberal with furloughs as war permits from such homesick men when they first go into the service but the real remedy is not in hurried trips home or long-distance telephone calls it is in building up of new interests and new ties in and around the camp yeah when I left home I left home yeah like I was gone and just that was that one of the fears that many men have to overcome or

adjust to when they first go into the army is the feeling that they may lose their identity their freedom of individual expression from revelry to taps there is little if any opportunity for the new recruit to do anything he’s not told to do whether he wants to or not he must get up at the sound of the bugle put on the prescribed uniform March when he has commanded stand at attention when he has ordered and do so even when with a mosquito biting him no longer does he eat when he’s hungry or go to sleep when he is tired all conduct seems to be according to order is this really a fight for freedom and democracy of course it is but conformity and discipline are necessary for the efficient operation of an army and I will say this it’s only that strict during boot camp I mean for the most part during boot camp that that’s when you really are every movement that you make is based on what you’re being told to do once you get into the fleet or out into the into a battalion somewhere it’s definitely it’s not easier but you do have more individual freedom so you some people want to talk to a kid that’s 16 and they are less what they’re worried about well you know I really like to whatever I like to surf mmm and I don’t want to give up surfing you left time to surf if you’re stationed somewhere you know join the Coast Guard because they’re always stationed near the water you know there’s an idea next a soldier’s worries there is first the fear of death it is best met by accepting the possibility of death as a natural part job and by being careful not to lose a sense of proportion about it again it’s weird for me to read this book because that’s if you would ask me that before I read this book that’s what I would’ve told you well you have to do is be like yeah there’s a chance I’m going to die hmm and if you’re scared of that you should try and get over it hmm and I think the sense of proportion that’s saying like listen okay the world’s not gonna end if I die no soldier is so important that he isn’t justified in thinking the enemy is aiming every oh that’s what they’re talking about this is the the sense proportion is no soldier isn’t so important that he’s justified in thinking that the enemy is aiming every bullet bomb and shell at him besides there are a great many men in the army and only a small proportion get hit in battle and the greater part of those who get hit will live and get well earned relief from the strain of combat after that there may be a Purple Heart decoration and some glory this is when we’re starting to lean a little bit towards propaganda they’re like listen you’re probably not gonna die which that is true and the the amount of people that are in the military compared to the amount of people that go into combat compared to the people that actually make contact with the enemy compared to the people that actually get hit it’s a very small percentage mm-hmm and if you do get hit guess what you got some glory and a Purple Heart coming your way don’t worry about it yeah like I said this sometimes is leaning a little bit towards propaganda in a positive and truthful way but you got it you got to take it with a grain of salt as they say back to the book and soldiers who have been through the worst of warfare are inclined to say that only a fool wants to live forever they usually add the warning but if you must die make your death count for something don’t throw your life away by taking needless chances so that’s the old again some some propaganda for you there hey listen man only a fool wants to live forever let’s go get some mm-hm and like I said there is some truth to that back to the book sensitive men may also worry or feel guilty over killing enemy soldiers other men in action unless they understand this worry and face it squarely they may head into trouble because killing is the main job of a combat soldier this is something people tend to forget from time to time the job of a soldier is to kill people from the earliest childhood American boys are taught that it is wrong the greatest wrong to kill this principle has learned so early that it becomes part of them as boys grow up they forget most of what happened in infancy and early childhood few people in fact can remember much of what happened in their first three years yet they retain within themselves the attitudes formed during the their earliest years they don’t remember ever learning them it seems as if they always felt that way if a man did not learn that it was wrong to kill until he was grown he would learn it then with it with his mind and he would be easy to lay aside that rule when war or emergency makes it necessary for him to kill but the don’ts learned in earliest

childhood become the voice of the conscience in the adult they seemed to be absorbed rather than learned and even though his mind tells a grown man that the execution of criminals is justified his emotions may rebel then if duty forces him to kill he may go ahead and do it but afterwards he’ll feel a vague uneasiness and anxiety his conscience won’t rest some men strictly brought up may even get sick at the sick at the stomach at the sight of a limp pathetic body of a rabbit that has been shot the cure for the exam anxiety that results from this kind of conflict between conscience and reason is to understand it once a man realizes that the feeling is natural in men brought up as an average American to respect human life this particular worry won’t haunt him so much he may have a few bad dreams but that won’t interfere with doing the job ahead disagreeable though maybe again this is one layer where we’re trying to let people know that hey what’d you feel when you feel Oh like I don’t feel like I want to go kill people that’s okay we get it here’s why you feel that way you feel that way cuz you’ve been told it since you were a little kid but you have to bring your reason into the problem and logically calculate that it’s okay to kill people tough this is this is this is trying to tell a generation of American kids that they’re going to go and fight and kill the enemy that’s what this is doing and even letting them know like listen you may have a few bad dreams right and that is probably one of the most minor ways of explaining the fact that you are gonna have freaking nightmares and cold sweats and they’re they’re downplaying that but they’re letting them know that that’s what’s gonna happen so this is this is definitely a book called the psychology psychology for the fighting man and they’re trying to use some psychology here to get the guys in the right mindset where they can kill next the healthy mind to be at his best a soldier must keep his mind fit as well as his body he must be mentally alert and accurately aware of his surroundings he must shoulder responsibilities willingly and accept the dictates of superior officers without resentment that’s interesting they use the word resentment not without question but without resentment hmm you must be able to get along with other men without undue friction and with mutual pleasure that’s important undue friction there’s gonna be friction you’re working with other human beings all of the human beings are crazy the marks of a man with healthy mind or personality are and that’s one thing this book continues to do well is it makes these lists so here’s the marks of a man with a healthy mind or purse one he uses his abilities with enthusiasm and satisfaction although not always with happiness or full contentment okay so I might not be totally into this but I’m gonna get it done in a the best possible way – he wants to do something worthwhile to pull his load and not be carried by others it’s interesting how a lot of this stuff is in full alignment with some Jordan Peterson activities summits Jordan Peterson statements right shoulder responsibilities willingly I think that’s a I think maybe Jordan read this book it is a psychology book and he desert maybe he read this book he started snatch it good material from it we’re on to UGA P but yeah and even this thing man wants to do something worthwhile mm-hmm Jordan Peterson talks about that all the time he gets along with other persons including his superiors and those with whom he has a difference of opinion very important how often is it we see people that I don’t agree with your opinion therefore I don’t like you and I can’t get along with you so lame so lame I actually welcome people that have differing opinions than me because maybe they can teach me something maybe I can learn something from their viewpoint mm-hmm for when he is disappointed or meets with deprivation or strain he faces the situation with constructive ideas and a fighting spirit not with fear rage hopelessness or suspicion so then he does not suffer from in debt indigestion headache or pain which though not all at all voluntary may be produced by mental

troubles so that’s how you meet like problems hmm with a good attitude not with fear rage and hopelessness 5 he persevered in the effort to solve a problem or complete a task in spite of the difficulty in disappointment check perseverance 6 he likes to give well as take check you ever known those kind of people that what they say they can give but they can’t take yes yeah those people on a fund hang room no no they’d never recognize it either yeah and then if you call someone on it like that of course it’s denial denial denial in a defensive way which is exactly you you are proving my point right now continuing on some break down mentally because they are just not fitted for army life they never should have been inducted in the first place physicians at induction centers watch carefully for the signs of beginning mental illness but nevertheless some slip by and they actually go through a pretty good chunk explaining that just you’re not gonna catch every person that that has a possibility of having some kind of a mental illness so someone we’re gonna end up and you got to be ready to deal with them and those are the people that they say are foredoomed to develop a mental illness but then there’s people beyond them and here we go in addition to those men who seem for doomed to develop a mental illness there are other men who break in the army under battle conditions these are real battle casualties just as much as if they had lost a leg so this is interesting because we hear all these people talking about PTSD and whatnot as if it’s new and as if it was unrecognized this book is written in 1942 yeah and they’re saying hey somebody that suffers that kind of stress under battle conditions that’s a casualty just like losing the leg yes so there you go yeah and that’s the part that’s kind of will seams anyway new is that it’s just as traumatic as the physical damage you know like and like you said it seems new yeah right it seems new but this is World War two yeah and we just don’t we always have to learn the same lessons over and over again why is that why do we have to learn the same lessons over and over and over again it’s a horrible reality back to the book a man in battle may receive a blow on the head that will caused injury to the brain that is serious particularly if he is a leader responsible for the direction and safety of his men this is an interesting point since the brain itself has no sense organs a man does not feel pain when his brain is injured and may think he has not been badly hurt this is how we end up with guys with TBI with traumatic brain injuries because they don’t your brain gets rocked around but it doesn’t it’s not like a bruise it’s not a it’s not a king I mean you get a little bit of headache once you want your experience a big blast like the next day I wonder why I got a little headache there’s a reason for that yeah but even what seems like a slight wound in the head must be looked after carefully usually the wounded man should be relieved from duty if even a small part of his brain is hurt or if his head has received a hard blow which does not even crack the skull nevertheless he’s likely to be confused or to act in a peculiar way in battle so he’s I think it’s funny it look you got to blow that didn’t even crack your skull they’re like that’s their that’s their assessment yeah it can’t be that bad it didn’t even crack your skull even a guy that didn’t crack his skull needs to get checked out needs a little break back to the book a direct blow on the head is not the only way a man’s brain can be injured the blast of the shell nearby can cause harm to the brain modern helmets however protect the soldiers years in his brain very well that’s kind of rubbish how the a helmet protects your ears and our helmets obviously are even more modern than the World War two steel helmet that they were these stars are made of Kevlar now that’s not going to protect your ears what we do have that protect your ears though is we wear a lot of a lot of people wear headphones for your radio and they have noise cancelling headphones so that that does protect your ears is it the kind that like go overeager and say go over your ears and there are ones that go inside your ears too depending on what you like but yeah most of most people are wearing noise cancelling headphones that go over both ears and they pick up noise from the outside and they they mute down yeah out really loud noises yeah now one thing that’s good when you’re wearing a headphones those headphones on both ears you lose there’s something that you lose there’s a couple things that you lose you lose the ability to tell distance

how far away something is and where it’s coming from and you lose the ability to tell where it’s coming from so if you see pictures of like me of life of stoner most of the time we have one ear on in one ear off huh and and sometimes people would ask people see a picture like would you have your headphone but here’s why you want to be able to hear direction that someone’s yelling for you and you want to be able to tell somewhat what the distance is yeah and those things are just gone you know you have the noise cancelling headphones on use their noise cancelling kind that go in your ears and there’s still noise there are interesting yeah the ones the ones I have for shooting do that you know it has a little volume thing and and also I don’t obviously I don’t know exactly how they made them to work but the it’s like when a gunshot goes off it actually mutes everything so if I’m talking to you and you know gunshot goes off like that for that instant you you go off to you know that’s the still works yeah and the deer it’s true you don’t know where it’s coming from so it could be covert literally on the opposite side you know that was crazy yeah so for guys that are in the military or in some kind of law enforcement where you’re where you’re wearing those headsets just be advised and I wouldn’t go to the point where I would cut that other headphone off I would keep it I just push it behind my ear and wear it that way all the time that way if I needed to I could put both headphones on because you can also run and this is another thing that’s a challenge in a leadership position as you can run to different radio frequencies one into each year uh and so when that’s going on then you got two voices coming in at the same time and talking about different things and it takes a little bit of practice to get used to that and actually it’s something that they say women are better at than men yes sir the tests have you read that yes yeah I read some research about it but women can listen to to conversations easier than men can listen to conversations but can they draw a bicycle well we’ve been through this it was risky that’s a risky commerce is the same study that or it wasn’t the same study it was a presentation it was like a video with the article it was the same one that said about the drawing the bike thing as the carry on tooth conversations or multitask in certain ways where it requires concentration all this stuff yes they are yeah that’s interesting that’s why I like my wife can literally be on the phone and like watch a TV show that you have to follow you know like do that kind of stuff and I’m like bit hot breath you can’t watch this show and be like shopping for curtains at the same time you know like either we’re watching the show or we’ve shopping for curtains kind of thing yeah but they can do that that’s so they have a little advanced skill there so the modern helmets they don’t practice they don’t protect your head for Michelle blast at all even our helmets today they don’t going back to the book besides these direct injuries to the brain men in battle can suffer shocks to the mind every month every man has his limit mentally as well as physically there are strains which no man however tough minded minded can endure modern battle has pushed closer and closer to these final limits of Mans endurance grueling hardships great fatigue prolonged loss of sleep blistering heat intense cold high altitudes great pressures below the sea these are all conditions that put a dangerous strain on the mind as well as body when a man goes through these things and then in addition suffered the strain of seeing his friends killed of being in constant peril of his own life of dealing out death with his own hands there may come a time when the strongest man’s mind will sicken such a sufferer from war shock is not a weakling he is not a coward he is a battle casualty if given psychiatric first aid promptly he will probably recover to take his place again in the battle unit if neglected however he may become permanently ill or may even seek relief of his mental wounds in death so again this is 1942 and we still hear information about this nowadays like it’s a revelation and it’s not and you know people trying to seek relief by committing suicide that’s what they’re saying here mm-hmm seek relief from mental wounds in death what is that that’s suicide and also and I think to me it’s always dick winners that always I always get reminded that he’s the guy that would say look if you got a guy that’s getting close you pull him off the battle line and you let him recover and he’ll be fine if you don’t pull him off the battle line he’s gonna

break he’s gonna be no good that read it’s the engine yesterday it’s the engine the car engine running in the red the car engine is running in the red you need to get it to a service station to get that thing serviced give it a little breather and then it’ll be fine if you get an engine running in the red and you keep running it guess what’s gonna happen you’re gonna blow out the engine it’s gonna be done it’s gonna be ruined yeah so it’s kind of like when you kind of go down that path when you think about it you know people who commit suicide just in general you know it kind of is like kind of got to think about that like they were probably in one way or another injured right in their brain whether it be you know for one you know but one way or another I think you just you can’t just when you say injured we’re not just talking about physical injury we’re talking about whatever stress you ask some amount of stress death all seeing all this mayhem and chaos yeah yes so yeah they have seen you gotta assume that someone that gets there in these cases has seen something that’s so bad or suffered through something that’s so bad that they seek relief from these mental stresses in death yeah so even like like a non-military person where you know like it’s common for people to be like oh you took the easy way out the coward kind of thing right committed suicide kind of thing but if you do really hundred-percent regard it as an injury just like your arm we’re leg or something like that it’s kind of like it seems like a little bit more understandable almost rather than calling them a coward outright yeah I’m not I’m not sure about that I think that I think that the most important thing is to recognize that if someone hurts their arm and they keep going on it their arm is not going to get better right someone breaks their leg and they keep running on it their leg is not going to get better and if someone’s got a got some massive amount of stress that causes a mental injury physical mental injury or mental psychological mental injury either one of those if they don’t take a break and get some help and get some relief then it’s going to not work it’s gonna break completely and then they get to a point where this is what we talk about when we talk about being in a cloud and everywhere you look around there’s nothing but cloud and to think you’re stuck in this storm and there’s no way out that’s where you end up and you know I I think Peter Tia posted an article about a young woman who killed herself and I wrote something in response on social media something like that’s horrible to see especially I think I think about something along the ones and hey that’s horrible to see especially with so many people that are fighting to live you know you think about people that have cancer or whatever and someone wrote back to me you don’t understand mental illness you know you don’t understand depression and like I responded back and I said and then he kind of said you know it’s not like that and I said you’re right I don’t like I don’t under I don’t I’m not a psychologist I don’t fully understand what it’s like to have this going on and it’s the same thing when with Chris Cornell from Soundgarden killed himself and I happen to be on Jill Rogen’s podcast the next day and we started off the podcast we were talking about it and you know it’s the same thing because what Jill Rogan and I are saying and and we’re not psychologists we’re saying it’s got to be hard out of that you know go-go swing a kettlebell go do something active which to somebody that’s got massive depression that just sounds idiotic but to me to Joe Rogan and hi we get a lot of satisfaction out of swinging kettlebells and new in jiu-jitsu it’s like that sounds like a decent idea it sounds like relief yeah and so hey that’s you know of course you I should i caveat that statement with hey man I’m not a psychologist I don’t really know when I feel like I when I feel like there’s darkness in the world I really like to do something physical Tim Ferriss said the same thing get out of your mind get into your body like okay so the you have those conversations and you think this is what I think I can’t change what I think you know why this is what I think someone could change my mind and someone could educate me sure but I’m just making a statement hey man that’s horrible to see ya it’s horrible to see especially when there’s people that have cancer or whatever and they’re fighting as hard as they can to stay alive and someone else that doesn’t have any diseases decides you know what I’m gonna take my own life I’m gonna kill myself that’s horrible to see that that’s my statement and someone you don’t understand this but no I don’t that’s a well that’s part of my point is

no I don’t understand this and so I I will say this I’ve seen how fragile the mind can be and really I should I should rephrase that how fragile the mind is because I’ve seen people that seem to be going down a good path and all of a sudden out of nowhere that path is they’re gone and and that’s like shocking so one thing I guess I I the part that I understand is that I don’t understand it and it’s hard for me to relate to that it’s hard for me to understand and say well I could have seen that coming no actually I couldn’t seen that coming at all at all so the interest is the most interesting thing about this to me is this book is from 1942 and they’re talking about the same things that we’re apparently still discovering right now like that sometimes you need a break from combat like that when you come home you might be a little bit you might have some nightmares like that if you break mentally it doesn’t mean that you’re a weakling maybe and Band of Brothers does a great job of that the one character who’s a total badass through and all the sudden he just can’t take anymore mmm and they go okay no problem and dick winters talks about it and he says yeah we know one lost any respect for that guy the guy took his risks he did a great job and then he couldn’t do it anymore and david hackworth describes it as hey you people have a cup and the cup gets filled up and what’s filled up it’s filled up you can’t put any more in there he can’t put any more combat in there and it’s not some people have a bigger Cup than other people it’s no disrespect it’s not it’s not a negative statement it’s just that’s the way it is so if someone gets in these bad situations what in my opinion you have to do is take a break get someone to help get someone to talk to about it that can help you find your way out of storm that’s what I realized from from the times we’ve had speaking of of Jordan Peterson the times that we the first time we had him on here I had never really spent any time thinking about psychology as an actual possible thing the world you don’t even just kind of seem like voodoo to me right and then when he was talking through some of the psychological protocols that they used to come over particular to overcome particular psychological issues I was like oh okay so this basically is like a car mechanic right you come in with to me and you’ve got this problem with your car cool this is what we’re gonna do it to fix that problem with your car and so there’s a certain amount of psychology that was revealed to me from Jordan as like oh yeah this is when you have this situation this is what you do to heal it and so it’s important I that was kind of a that was a revelation to me not like a revelation that changed my world but it was a for me psychology was just always kind of voodoo that’s what it seemed like looking at it from the outside and I’m an ignorant person right seriously I’m kind of an ignorant person I graduated high school I grew up in the middle group in the military I spent all my time around a bunch of other knuckleheads like me it’s like you you’re not talking this vast with this vast experience of all these different data points of the world it’s like no I’m just a guy who never really dealt with psychology before so for me I just looked at oh it’s just some weird people laying on a couch so you know what I learned from the movies yeah and so I didn’t see the benefit of hey oh they actually have identifiable problems that they can see and then they have protocols to overcome those so if someone is out there and they’re caught in this storm whatever that storm may be if you go to one of these brain mechanics if they would have called it brain mechanic that would have understood it go to the brain mechanical that’s called a psychologist the little brain mechanic and say hey this is the problem that I’m having right now can you give me a tune-up and the brains the brain mechanic will say yep here’s the protocol I want you to do this I want you to write down this I want you to talk about this so and that’s what they do yeah mental danger signals back to the book mental first aid is just as important as physical first aid for preventing casualties and losses to the service in 1942 you know if a man can be relieved of duty for a time given arrest when he needs it urgently he can usually be counted upon to come back to the combat presently with fresh zest and vigor if however he’s allowed to go on past his mental breaking point without let-up if he is permitted to wait until he collapses or until the urgency of his needs makes him go on sick call voluntarily the chances are much smaller for his rapid recovery

check out World War one shell-shocked and that’s what you end up with guys that are mentally destroyed by the horror that they see and the unremitting non-stop presence of this horror you have to give guys breaks if they need it next the first thing to look for is anything that makes a man stand out in an awkward way from the others in his unit anything that makes him look odd to the other men marks him as not belonging does he stay by himself too much does he go for long periods without speaking is he known to other men as having strange ideas does he find conditions intolerable than other men get along under alright is he a problem in the outfit refusing certain foods wetting the bed following strange or peculiar practices does the sergeant Regatta regard him as peculiar another thing to look for is any sudden change in the soldier’s own personality if he is a man who has been in the outfit for a while it’s easy to it’s easy to note a complete reversal of habits or attitudes when the ordinarily cheerful man becomes Moody and depressed when the quiet orderly soldier becomes boisterous and noisy and a disciplinary problem when the neat well-groomed man becomes dirty and disheveled lets his shoes go and shine his uniform unbuttoned his hair uncombed when the dependable man goes AWOL and starts drinking hard these are signs to look for for mental trouble they should be looked into the guardhouse may not be any help at all sometimes it makes things even worse worse so just because someone starts getting in trouble hey you don’t renew throw them in the Brig hmm it’s not gonna make things any better in fact it could make things worse back to the book when a man has been through a particularly trying experience in combat without relief for a long period under steady bombing or gunfire without protection cut off from other troops or lost at sea more acute signs of war nerves may show up all men should know that these signs are the natural result of fear and war strain they do not mean that a man has gone insane but they do mean that he needs care rest medical attention and mental first aid and here’s some signs of that here’s some signs of severe stress inability to sleep terrible nightmares in which the battle is repeated over and over inability to eat humming in his ears shakiness general weakness weakness in certain parts of his body as the knees or the rest to dizziness peculiar feelings in the heart fluttering pounding skipping a beat difficult breathing relentless combined Belen restlessness combined with a feeling of being penned in an overwhelming desire to push people and walls out of the way rest is the principal cure for these indications of war nerves rest and the care of a medical man who understands such cases and an understanding on the part of the soldier of what is wrong with him these feelings are natural enough for anyone has gone through the difficult conditions of combat but they are very frightening to a man who does not expect them even more distressing than the shells or bombs or torpedoes themselves this is when it’s important to understand what’s happening if you don’t know why you’re shaking if you don’t know why you can’t sleep at night if you don’t know why you can’t eat why you feel weak like if there’s why there’s ringing in your ears if you don’t understand why those things are happening you it’s gonna be worse for you it’s just unexpected it’s unknown and we’re afraid of the unknown officers who understand these matters can do a great deal to relieve the men’s fears of war nerves and to prevent them by their own comrades and their costs so hey officers like hey man look you just got you you been out here a little too long we leave you a little breather hmm how the mind protects itself the body has defense mechanism so has the mind to touch a piece of hot metal and instantly you have withdrawn your hand before you know what you are doing if something flies towards your face you shut your eyes without stopping to decide how to close them these are natural means for self-protection when the mind is attacked by unpleasant ideas dangerous fears it too has a way of withdrawing or of turning away and shutting out what cannot be endured when you see a man of ordinary good common sense become strangely blind to facts refused to believe that his lost brother has really been killed or refused to see these he himself is to blame for a disastrous failure that man’s mind is automatically protecting itself from a truth so bitter that he can take it a little bit delusional it might be dangerous even were it possible to convince him convince a man of the actual facts he might if compelled to face them commit suicide that has happened more than once an obstinate

refusal to accept the truth on the part of a man of ordinary good judgment is a danger signal just as a fever of 103 degrees is the signal of a serious physical danger don’t try to argue with such a man he should be given a rest or a furlough from the duty in the strain it is apparent that the mind is hard hit when he is fit again he will be able to see clearly once more he will rid himself and go back to normal just as the fever patient patient does when his temperature goes back down but it is only when the minds natural protective mechanism are used to an excessive or unreasonable extent that they that they said that they point to a sick or exhausted mind every normal man uses them daily to some extent this is the way they work and this goes through a bunch of things that we all do on a daily basis normal people to deal with things one passing the buck you see this every day when a man fails or is humiliated he can shrug it off or freely admit as it is a his own fault if the failure is trivial and did not mean much to him or if he has strong character if the failure is a great personal tragedy all but the man of an extraordinary strength of character will try to put the blame on someone or someone else someone or something else the man who thus fails will seize upon any plausible excuse he blames the weather the man who gave him wrong advice or the man who got in his way sometimes he may even imagine a plot against himself and persuade him that everybody is down on him humiliation and defeat are hard to bear instinctively every man wants to try at once to get out from under when blame hangs over him habits of good sportsmanship usually prevent him from doing so but still in his own mind or among friends he will say but it wasn’t my fault that’s amazing section obviously directly related to the idea of extreme ownership the fact that it’s only a man of extraordinary strength of character who will take the blame that’s the only that’s the only person everyone else is gonna what’s what I think what’s important about this is to recognize that we all subconsciously know this so when you screw something up and you go well you know we didn’t get the supplies we were supposed to get and that’s why we failed everybody knows that that’s a little character flaw you got right there to shine through yep that’s what’s going on yeah right it’s a little character flaw when you hear it all the time yeah it’s so obvious to everyone when you’re making an excuse yeah well it no one believes your excuse you know what is your excuse even if everyone’s making an excuse yeah that’s valid still the sucks like everyone let’s say me you I don’t know Lafe there’s a bunch of people in a room and we’re all making excuses it almost seems like each individual guy would be like oh they’re making excuses meanwhile like they’re nothing you know I’m making it yes do you know it’s a scary thing and what’s cool is as soon as someone goes hey you know what this is actually my fault other people go oh man I need to say that too because I screwed some stuff like yeah it’s all it’s kind of like you ever ever been in like a big meeting and it kind of goes off there’s a little bit you have a picket wait have you ever there’s your big meeting with like your wife yes believe me that’s a huge meeting yeah the and you know let’s say it goes off the rails and people start like essentially raising their voice maybe not yelling but you know and now everyone’s talking you can’t hear what he new insane right but everyone’s voicing their opinions essentially just just a little bit more passionately right but you can’t hear anybody would anyone sing right you know that happens a lot so it’s kind of the same concept because even when you are not saying anything everyone else is talking you’re compelled to be like be quiet but oh what’d you just do right there you just added to the noise with the thing rather than like handling it kind of consciously and be like okay I’m not gonna add to the noise I’m gonna be quiet yes taking ownership is contagious and making excuses is contagious they’re both contagious yeah they’ll both run rampant and wild until when you put a check on the good thing the good

news about that is taking ownership is the stronger power yeah so if you if someone in that group starts to take ownership that that virus will spread stronger than the excuse making virus yeah okay the next thing that people do is the false front when a man is worried by the fear perhaps only half consciously but deep in his heart that he has serious that he has a serious fault or weakness what does he do he puts up a great show of being just the opposite sort of person if the man is stupid or ineffective yet feels the need to be strong and sure he will overdo his efforts to impress people he will be loud and boisterous and cocky the timid person may do foolhardy stunts seeking to prove his bit bravery the man who is really courageous strong and manly seldom knee feels any need to demonstrate it he just takes himself for granted it was a bunch of it obviously we see his all time people are insecure about the way they do something they try and give the false front that they’re great at it yeah I remember when I was young and I bleached my hair blonde did a few times by the way that’s interesting yeah so it wasn’t like super long or nothing like this was just sure and us I was a girl who said hey you just do that for attention and I’m thinking to myself I don’t like I don’t do it for attention you know and then you thought to yourself more like am i doing it for attention I’m not realizing it kind of thing and something you know you go around around in there you know then why did I do it you know do did I like like how it specifically looked because it does stand out I knew that from the beginning there what age is this up to 2020 oh yeah 21 maybe yeah I like 20 heads okay yeah 20 anyway so after you think about you’re like yeah cuz you know I like how it looked at the time and yeah wanted people to sort of look you know is a so then what did you do nothing you didn’t you can’t I admitted it to myself yeah yeah I kept okay and then yeah yeah there’s a lot of uh there’s a lot of wrestlers like the high school wrestlers mm-hmm they do that there’s whole teams whole teams everyone’s got their hair bleach blonde yeah well cuz there’s a level of arrogance which with wrestling yeah you’d like to look at well yeah like self confidence like hey I’m gonna write we’ll make this happen and it’s it’s a psychological game right yeah I’m not scared you look at me I’m actually bleached-blonde my hair you look at me yeah because I’m about to stick you on the map yeah okay so other than semantics is there a difference between the expression I want attention or I’m doing it for attention versus I’m doing it to stand out I think those are the same same right yeah but one kind of sounds more like kind of superficial yes yes you just want engine ya know I’m doing to stand out you know I want to stand up that’s a good thing and you know that’s that’s a not a great argument well yeah that being being the hey I just want to stand out that’s the most positive possible way of saying yeah I just want attention yeah which is what you want yeah cuz if you say I want to stand out cuz you can um like try to stand out or pursue standing out as a good thing for a good reason you know like I want to stand out I want my business to stand out on my XYZ thing to stand out so you know so people don’t know sign on or whatever but if you’re like I want to do it for attention it just sounds like I just want the attention like that’s what I want that’s the end goal the attention that’s what it feels like when you say it even though there’s sort of the same thing there are other things I was playing soccer when I was a kid you know yeah and my dad my parents were school teachers yeah they’re not a lot of money in school teaching and we my dad I needed a pair of cleats so I’m probably eight years old and my dad goes to the sporting goods store digs into the the bin of leftovers secondhand whatever and he gets and the pair of cleats that fit me is white it’s a pair of white cleats yeah this is 19 whatever 78 there’s no one with white cleats this is not for everyone has black lights so I go to a soccer game and like I said I think with your white cleats yeah that’s likely Jack said they were the chief they were in the bargain bin right yeah it wasn’t like my dad on the school teacher salary

was like hey which pair do you want from this rack over here know you’re getting the the new buck you know what that is no it’s a fake leather you know so you’re just getting the fake leather plastic cleats they’re white whatever but I was out on the soccer pitch mm-hmm and I think I want to say I scored a goal I think and as I was running back some like a dad from the other team mm-hmm said something like you know you think you’re the big star now with those white cleats I don’t know if he was being nice uh he might have been being nice it didn’t sound like it to me at the time I think that right there was like the beginning of me thinking I don’t want to be the guy that’s dyeing their hair bright blonde at 21 years old but yeah have you said maybe 21 you’re gonna be that you think you’re gonna be the big star now he said something with those white cleats it was something like that yeah I can’t remember very much from my childhood yeah that I remember number one you were playing like the this is not some big soccer league you know they got kids playing soccer now they got there looking like a professional soccer yeah no this is you remember them things you had when you were a little kid the yellow shirt that was like elastic around the bottom and you just put it on over your other shirts it was like the yellow team versus the other tee it was one of those things we’re not talking high level we’re not talking high level soccer playing we’re talking yellow jersey yellows against the regular kids yeah well they cut intramural yes so there I was with the white cleats on and I remember thinking that guy thinks that I’m trying to make a spectacle out of myself and he didn’t say nice goal right you said all you think you got some nice cleats yeah were you celebrating a heart or something no no running backing I was running back yeah yeah he was hating I’m trying to think of when I celebrated hard cuz that’s something that that’s something I remember a couple times in my life is celebrating hard and being like man that was a bad move and again it’s probably the same age group you know huh like yeah man that’s that’s kinda deep though where that because it’s the opposing teams dad or when you know somebody on them and um cuz yeah I wonder right cuz there’s two things that he could mean he was hating regardless you say man you know he started to go obviously but it but was he like oh you think you’re the Big Shot now like hating on that’s what I heard you’re cool or was he like on a deeper level where he was like oh you think you’re a big shot but look you suck kind of thing was he saying that the way I interpreted it it was he was saying you think you’re special because I’ve got those white cleats on yeah yeah like you know that them are the only beats I got my dad’s a notoriously cheap guy my dad we could tell stories about my dad all all 10 15 podcasts worth of penny-pinching comes up from the old man so you weren’t getting these normal cleats yeah these are bargain bin cleats maybe so that’s what we’re talking about this number three taking it out on the dog the man who suffers injury and is not strong enough to hit back may literally take it out on the dog or may go around looking for trouble with someone else you can talk back to a punch in the in the nose yeah check here’s one borrowed virtue a more constructive or helpful sort of mental protection mechanism is this action of a man who feels weak or inadequate by himself and who gains a feeling of strength and superiority by attaching himself to a stronger man or a strong group it was this that sent so many men to the recruiting stations on the morning after Pearl Harbor as a man alone you feel powerless in the face of threatening dangers as a United States soldier you know you can go anywhere in the world avenge wrongs and protect your treasured way of life so there’s a positive way that we week we roll number five is sick call when your mind is called upon to face something you dread terribly your body may come promptly to your rescue the aviation student who really dreads to go up for his first solo feeling sure he is going to crack up his plane may develop a convenient but real headache on that day he you see that happen right you speed happen with little kids – mm-hmm first jujitsu tournament becomes sick first whatever you know first basketball game feel good shut up you feel fine moving on the war within the man it might be much easier to defeat the enemy

if men could only win in some way the conflicts that very often go in go on within themselves a man so this is this is where we go dichotomy the new level of dichotomy been digging in right here a man so often wants to do two opposite things at the same time and he wants desperately to do both he wants to dominate other men and yet be liked by them he wants to give vent to his anger but he doesn’t want to get in hot water he wants to gain promotion but he doesn’t want to do all the hard work above all he wants to be a brave entry true soldier to keep the soldier’s faith and yet he wants to live how to be brave and safe that is the greatest psychological problem for the soldier most of the war neurosis mental illness in parentheses result from the failure of men to find any sort of satisfactory way out of that dilemma every man is equipped with two kinds of the deep-seated it desires or instincts often these two conflict one set has to do with his relations with other men he wants to be one of the gang appreciated and admired by others and he even likes to sacrifice himself for the good of the group to which he belongs whether it is his family church army or nation but he also has another set of desires that cannot ever be entirely denied desires connected with himself his life his comfort his personal freedom no amount of patriotic fervor can wholly kill or drown out the calls of the more personal instincts only a few rushed to enlist with no misgivings most for most men there is some concern or distress making the decision to leave home family and job in order to join the service of the country a move to a war theater and an advanced to close contact with the enemy usually brings a crisis in the battle within the soldier as well as in the battle against the enemy when a man finds himself close indeed to death then his instinct to self-preservation one of the most powerful urges every normal man has makes every fiber of his being protest against facing the danger yet his comrades his officers his country are all counting on him to do his bit a pretty big bit risking his own life yet they are counting on him if the personal instincts win the struggle the man when contact with the enemy forces is made will run away or will surrender if the social instincts prevail then he is the stuff of which all good soldiers all heroes are made most men who have travelled the hard path of army life up to the front lines put up a good fight once they get there for a few sorry there you go you either have guys okay you know what of course I want to stay alive but I’m gonna be loyal to my country my army my team that I’m with and the guy to my left and my right and so guess what I’m going forward into the fray the other that that make the other decision are cool you know what I want to stay alive so I’m gonna run away so there’s two distinct types of behaviors most of the time it’s hey we’re gonna put up the good fight occasionally it’s a coward and then this is the interesting one for a few however this struggle ends in a stalemate a compromise that is what a war neurosis is a compromise of this internal conflict if a man goes on being torn by his conflicting desires if he cannot bring himself to go forward yet is too conscientious to give up he will suffer from the type of neurosis characterised by anxiety he finds he can no longer concentrate he becomes confused the expression on his face his pulse rate his rapid breathing betray the fierce battle going on with him within he himself may not be fully aware of the cause of this terrible sense of fear and horror that seems to hang over him yet he is in a way solving his problem he is making himself too inefficient to continue to fight yet giving himself so much suffering that his conscious cannot accuse him of taking the easy way out yet even so he does not know that he is doing all this his nervous system does it for him the man who suffers in any of these ways is not to be blamed he is not a coward if he were he would have no conflict that’s an interesting point so if you’re just a coward you just like screw it I’m out of here the guy that freezes up and gets so nervous he doesn’t want to run but he doesn’t want to go fight he can’t solve that conflict in his head back to the book if he were he would have no

conflict he would see to it that he was not at the front but in a soft safe job somewhere at a good distance even if necessary he would desert but he does not desert and still does not fight he compromises with a difficult unpleasant alternative one which he does not choose but which his nervous system chooses for him he cannot control it the leader who lectures him balls him out or punishes him for neglect of duty is only to increase his trouble on the other hand coddling such men is a mistake – so you can’t go – you got to balance this you can’t go super hard on them but you can’t coddle them either you need to balance this dichotomy what they need is understanding help the reinsert reassurance that comes from a firm but friendly attitude on the part of those who deal with them they need the encouragement of assurance that such things happen to the best of men but that men may get over such difficulties with aid they need to be told that they will be helped by a good night’s sleep perhaps drug induced by the medical officer buy a good meal and buy rest and that then they will be expected to return to the fight and do their duty with the others so that’s a pretty interesting way of looking at it and I would say as I thought about that think about how many how much how much nervousness you feel if you think about the nervousness is actually in it’s an internal war between two decisions that you could be making right what should I do should I buy this new car or save the money right like well which one should I do I really want the car but I know I should save money right you get this little internal internal conflict and that’s what the struggle is you’re not really actually nervous about buying the new car they’re not nervous and they’ll save money you’re not you can’t make a decision based on the two things that you want to make happen yeah so we get those little I think it’s if you if you frame things up if you’re feeling stressed about something if you frame up what is actually stressing you out there’s a good chance of what’s actually stressing you out is you’re just trying to figure out which decision to make yeah it’s true and one thing that you can do is you can if you play your card if your brain plays the game out you can be so you can not make a decision oh yeah because hey you’re just not making a decision it’s like that it’s crazy how they I mean that’s the first I’ve heard anyone articulate that little bit cuz brow get that in the most like stupid mundane things so okay bear with me some what some I’m unloading unloading the dishwasher so on this side of my kitchen which is like it’s kind of a longer like kind of kitchen where so on this side this is where pots go and but it’s not just posit spots and then certain kind of little these little soy sauce dishes and and then on this side it’s like silverware and then there’s like plates right so I’m unloading the dishwasher and I’m trying to be efficient I’m not rushing that I’m trying to be efficient so I’m grab I have like you know I get like maybe four dishes of sorts at a time deal and so but I looked at what I grabbed and I guess I get this feeling like shoot where do I go do I go here first you know and put away the pots first that I have in my head or do I go over here because if I go over here I can do that you don’t kind of thing I’m at this little conundrum but I’m like you know what I should do and this is all just going on my head it takes maybe like four five seconds but pots and pans and glasses and soy sauce dishes soy sauce dish is that an actual thing right and it’s sad see because this is lit I’m not exaggerating this literally goes in my head and it’s this micro little almost anxiety it’s not exact but it’s like it’s there it’s something it’s not like not you know I’m not just like oh just making taking action I’m not doing that I’m like literally standing there not doing anything thinking about this stuff so I’m like okay why have that you’re not in a situation we have to make actual decisions me too that would be a problem if this is any indicator it will be a problem so I’m looking and I’m like shoot where should I decide I said no you know what I’m gonna do I’m gonna put put this whole side the dishes that go on this side I’m gonna put those back I’m gonna grab stuff they all go on that side oh wait now I got to take the time to put this back in search and grab other ones I’m losing time that’s less efficient given the point that I’m at right now so I’m like man and then you know and then of course I’ll just be like ah whatever I’ll just kind of let go but the point is Brad that happens literally happens if it’s happening happening to you Echo Charles with dishes yeah yeah I can imagine that other people feel it when there’s actual decisions to be made yeah just to wrap this whole thing up and I don’t want to talk about that anymore ever but if you were smart you would just organize your kitchen so that

everything is located co-located all things that go from the dishwasher go into this small area you know think about that one well don’t think about it for too long as well because I don’t want you to freaking stress out in anxiety but that a lot of those like he puts it in terms of like in to time kinds of instincts there was social and social and human survival yeah it’s like a big one is a way to see it is like how you pointed out to me like the long game you know it’s like either you’re playing this very game in the long game so it’s kind of like that like there’s like you you had the example of the buying the car thing that’s the short-term versus long-term payoff situation most things are when you have that little conundrum you know like a you know way I’m gonna eat this pot of brown or these pan of brownies but I want to eat those rice because they’re delicious but I don’t want to get you know you know put on weight or whatever you know it’s kind of the same thing I want both kind of thing but and they most of the time I think anyway it sorts itself out to be a short term versus long term struggle and I think the important thing here is that you can actually take this concept and apply it to meaningful decisions that human beings have to make yeah not just soy sauce bowls well and brownies diet is a big it’s not a big one when you compared to storming the beaches of uo Jima just saying I agree with that yes sir and speaking of which and this is where this is obviously this part here is probably written more directed at you back to the book men differ greatly their abilities to stand up under this internal personal conflict most men can come successfully through terrorizing experiences revolting scenes and exposure to death war is older than history and all nations and tribes have resorted to it so even the terrorizing experience that you have with the soy sauce bowls that one’s good that’s rough continuing the average soldier has conflicts but settles them himself with no one else the wiser so he finds himself free to fight with his whole strength on him the average free soldier victory depends fortunately the first contact with the enemy is the hardest in seasoned troops internal conflict diminishes they have faced the worse and no it is not intolerable even soldiers who have to retreat are not defeated if they have learned to conquer their own fears that’s a good one even soldiers who have to retreat are not defeated if they have learned to conquer their own fears they will advanced another time having once won the fight with the inner man and having faced the reality of battle finding it finding in it less terror and more opportunity for success than the green recruit could ever have believed possible so now we get to this section in the book and like I said this is the section that I actually wanted to cover but we ended up covering this whole book over the course of three podcasts and this section is called leadership you can’t boss a brick you can’t even boss a dog unless the dog has been trained to obey and has formed habits of responding to commands and before you can boss him you must know what commands he will spawn to the famous seeing-eye dogs can do wonderful things to aid the blind but both dog and master must first go through a period of training so there you go and now we get this authority is not power that’s an epic statement listen to this no amount of legal authority over the grizzly bears of British Columbia would enable you to get yourself obeyed by them out in the woods men can be commanded only after they have acquired habits of obeying after and after their leader has learned to give them commands that make these habits work all successful leadership thus depends on the habits of those who are to be led the officer standing before his men is limited in the direct exercise of his authority by what the troops are able to get through their eyes and ears so this is this interesting you’re gonna see in this opening section here it’s really leaning towards that traditional military idea of leadership it’s like look if you’re trained correctly and I give you an order you’re gonna listen and so that’s that’s where this thing kind of starts off with and as you probably can figure out that’s contrary to what I believe effective leadership to consist of but it’s talking about it and even though I don’t believe that’s the most effective form of leadership and a matter of fact I know it’s not the most effective form

of leadership that being said it is a former leadership and it is it can be effective it does work in many situations where it’s like look I’m the boss I’m the one that’s right in the paychecks I’m the one that’s got the rank and when I tell you to do something you know you’re gonna get it done and that is a normal sort of baseline rudimentary form of leadership so it does exist back to the book when authority is not obeyed default may lie in the manner of speech of the leader or else it may be that the men are in need of basic training so it looks a look people aren’t listening to you it could be the way that you’re talking to them and now it starts to but and the reason I said this is starting off talking about type of leadership that I don’t really find to be optimum at all but you’re gonna see that it starts to lead towards the type of leadership that I do believe to be effective and they actually believe it to be the most effective – so continue on it is often said that a good leader knows how to handle as men actually however it is not possible for any leader to handle his men it is himself that he handles then the men react to his deportment and the way in which they react depends in term on their habits of thought and action so that’s a great statement being a leader is it’s you don’t handle your men you handle yourself mmm you’re the one that you need to handle and then if you handle yourself correctly the team will then react to the way that you handle yourself so that now we’re starting to lean towards what I believe to be good leadership that’s leading by example next section discipline in an army much of this training on which leadership depends is established by discipline discipline is training in the habits of attention and obedience without such habits we might have a crowd or a mob but not an army it is quite possible to lead a mob yet such leadership is uncertain depending largely on the accidents of personal appearance and unfortunate timing in an army however there have been many leaders of many ranks and they have been interchangeable if a leader is killed another must be ready to take his place and lead men so it’s talking about discipline and this is talking about the traditional form of military discipline hey there’s a rank structure you must be obedient and that is not the optimal type of discipline that I believe in which is hey we are a disciplined team we have discipline standard operating procedures we understand what the mission is we understand what the goals are we are going to move in that direction with discipline and the discipline is not imposed discipline that I impose on my team it’s discipline that they impose on themselves because they realize that it makes them more effective and more efficient and more likely to be able to accomplish the mission which they believe in now it talks a little bit about learning obedience and again obedience to me is not something that I’m looking for from my team mm-hmm it’s not what I’m looking for I’m not looking for obedience I’m looking for people that know how to understand what the goal isn’t they’re gonna move towards the goal the first requisite of command is attention so you got to get people to pay attention to you that makes sense what men do invariably and repeatedly is finally drilled into them becomes for them second nature they learn to perform acts or maneuvers in response to commands or orders because the command or order has always been accompanied by the act and the act by the command mere lecturing never trains men in action at best it makes them learn mere word sequences except when the listeners already know enough about the required action to perform in imagination learning something new in other words requires participation you don’t learn to swim by taking a correspondence course so yes you have to drill people you have to get it make it second nature that that is true and do that in we did that in the SEAL Teams they do that in the military people know what they’re gonna do when they get shot at they know what the from a certain direction everyone what they’re gonna do and we drill it over and over and over again until you don’t have to think about its second nature unfortunately bad habits as well as good can be learned if unspoken command men do not respond then they are learning not to respond whenever they are ordered to do something they cannot do they are learning to disobey military manuals embody this fact in a rule never give a command that you do not expect to be obeyed now that’s a brilliant statement and I don’t necessarily think it’s a brilliant statement for the same reasons but actually pretty close if you

wait if if I’m looking at you and you’re working for me and I say hey you need to get all the stuff moved by by noon today and I know there’s no physical way for you to do it I’m wasting it and I’m diminishing my authority over you because you’re thinking knows no way I can do that so now you’re definitely not gonna do it and the next time I say to get something done you’ve got a you’ve got a already a preconceived notion that you don’t really have to do it yeah so that’s a great statement if you’re in charge never give a command that you don’t expect to be obeyed don’t do it keep your mouth shut figure out something that can be done hmm thus a young leader when he finds himself so situated that his command might be disregarded must refrain from giving it he must first try to change the situation capture the attention he must merely wait until he is reasonably certain that when he gives his order it will indeed be obeyed so makes sense and now we get into the section called the leader and this is now where we start to come towards the vision of leadership or the the principles of leadership that I believe in back to the book a good leader does not depend solely on the authority that discipline gives him as an officer or noncommissioned officer for good leadership goes far beyond discipline a good experienced leader inspires respect confidence and loyalty in his subordinates all of which enable him to get from his men performance far above what a new leader could command so there you go all this stuff that we just talked about you got to train him you gotta have discipline you gotta make sure they’re gonna obey your orders you got to teach him obedience all that stuff is nothing compared to the power of respect of loyalty continuing on in this the leader can rely on the generous cooperation of his men four men have a natural longing to respect and have affection for their leaders they want to be proud of their officers and noncommissioned officers just as they want to be proud of their unit and their branch of service when the when the new army was first being formed many of the officers had little experience in command they had learned the words were capable of giving directions and instructions but they had learned neither the action nor the manner that go with the command a young officer would utter an order but his manner would betray his lack of confidence this uncertainty was in effect a signal for not carrying the order out promptly and effectively as military orders must be carried out all our lives we have depended on the manner and behavior of others as well as on their speech to know what is in their minds army discipline cannot change human nature what did Sarah Armstrong say that 70% of conveyed message in a conversation is from non verbal nonverbal cues that’s massive yes I wonder if that includes like tone yeah or not I don’t think any much technically wouldn’t because that’s a verbal yeah so we know that I’m at whatever the number is it’s a massive amount using a massive amount that is conveyed by what your posture is what a delivery looks like what your countenance reads all those things and then it lets include tone in it right which the tone should be in there somewhere yeah if you’re giving orders and you look like you don’t know what you’re doing and you sound like you don’t know you’re doing and you’re using a tone that sounds like you don’t know what you’re doing here you’re not gonna get a lot of jumping in there to execute what you’re telling me to do yeah how that is nuts because when you think about it I mean even saying that you start to think about what like all the little things all of them that you’re doing while you’re saying something or trying saying something like even blinking like even if you blinked one time versus ten times just blinking that teeny teeny tiny thing yeah when you said you know like you breath it’s like you’re saying something completely different if yeah even though like when I’m talking to people I will not blink I yeah I noticed that very early on in our relationship that you don’t really blink when you’re talking but I will look I die and the weird thing is is I’m not consciously doing that kind of thing yeah but I do know that it’s happening yeah and I man when I when I first started making videos I noticed it a lot so you know cuz I noticed like villains and character certain types quote-unquote types of characters so when a villain when an actor is playing a villain and he’s saying something that did that’s evil or whatever and he’s blinking brah I don’t buy it at all it’s the fact you

kind of can’t really buy it but if they’re saying something what if it’s important in whatever way and they’re not blinking it’s almost like man that alone sells it so much just that alone of course there’s other stuff but like yeah what blinking even like wrinkling your forehead kind of thing like all these little things so it goes so deep that you know you can take two people one guy does hand motions all the time just he moves his hands a lot when he talks and the other guy does the exact opposite he moves his hands so little that it’s noticeable it’s not that oh he lacks verbal communication it’s his ene it’s that his inaction is his verbal communication assume saying so it’s not like he has less verbal communication than the guy his hands he has just as much he’s just saying something completely different because he’s still seem saying so it’s like just all these nonverbal things that’s a deep it goes man yeah and this is where self-awareness this is where role playing and most important good cuz look you’re not gonna you’re not gonna become an Academy award-winning actor so what you actually need to do is believe in what you’re saying yeah that’s what you need to do you don’t believe in what you’re saying your troops are looking at you you can he doesn’t even believe this why am I gonna go charge this machine-gun nest this guy doesn’t even believe that you should be charging this machine-gun nest yes and yet if you truly believe that this is what should go down mm people will see that you believe it and they’re gonna follow ya so how you feel about this this might be this little slightly surreal case so you know um people they’ll give you the advice like you wanna you want to act confident you want to be confident when you do this stuff even if you’re not confident or whatever okay so it’s kind of like people can smell when you’re not confident and you’re acting confidence anyway they can smell it when you’re trying to act casual or an actor ELAC right I can see you know every we can see that but if you do it enough doesn’t it start don’t you get kind of good at it well that’s the advice that I give people isn’t go be confident when you talk to people what I say is when you talk to people make sure you know what you’re talking about yeah because if you know what you’re talking about you will come across as confident why will you come across as confident because you are confident now sure there’s some people that have some natural ability to act confident even when they’re not yes and there’s also some people that can be very convincing and telling people to do something that they don’t actually leave it that’s very rare very rare and even if I feel like those people and obviously I don’t know cuz I don’t know the people but it seems like those are the people they’re just used to doing it they’re used to telling tall tales with complete confidence yeah but you can see how people if they repeat repeatedly talk about the same thing certainly they get and can they take that too far where they’re just turning into a robot that’s up there reciting something that they’ve heard and people call this guy’s just got this memorized because that’s jacked up too right yeah like if you just go oh this guy’s just memorize this thing and he’s not really into it yeah that’s that’s not a good sign either yeah people can see through that yeah if yeah if it’s like yeah man you’ve had manufactured enthusiasm or something like that yeah if they can smell it for sure yeah but because some people like they’ll memorize that let’s say if it’s a speed it obviously depends on the context totally but you know if it’s a speech or a lecture or presentation that somebody’s get giving that they always give and you know when they talk about this XYZ exciting part or you know important part they’ve done it literally ten thousand times so they’re not going to convey natural excitement they have to sort of manufacture it for the crowd kind of thing and yeah if that you know manufactured excitement comes off as manufactured to the car that’ll jammy-jam your whole thing up yeah and I think that’s why you have to be talking about something that you know about is Part one and Part two you have to be talking about something that you care about yeah we don’t care about you don’t want to hear me stand up and talk about something you know some whatever you don’t want you’d want to hear me talk about candle making sure right because I don’t care about candle making in fact I don’t really like candles I’m just being honest here I respect you I don’t like candles why would you have candles it’s 2019 Yeah right right well there’s many different reasons for candles but yeah I’m at mood lighting uh you know some kid my point is I don’t like candles you don’t hear me talk about candles you don’t hear me talk about the construction of candles because I don’t care about it and I’m not gonna give a very passionate talk about candles even if I studied the subject matter if you hear me talking about leadership

you can’t harness the enthusiasm that I have for talking about leadership you can’t you can’t hold it back it’s coming out unbridled its unbridled it’s coming out because I really care about this you know when I’m talking to a bunch of people that are leaders I want them to win that want them to learn I want them to absorb what I’m saying cuz I know it can be helpful to them because I’ve seen it be helpful to thousands of people so I want them to get the message and so it’s gonna come out that way so I know what I’m talking about I believe what I’m talking about what I am talking about and I care about what I am talking about and if you’re talking to people try and talk about things that you know about that you care about and that you believe in and if you do that as a leader when you’re giving direction and its direction that you believe in its direction that you care about the outcome and its direction that you know and understand you are gonna come across like a confident leader and people are gonna listen to you if you’re failing in those categories it’s gonna be harder for you this is interesting continuing on and we just went on a little riff right there but a leader is actually giving conflicting orders if his uncertain manner hints that he does not expect obedience or that he thinks he may not be obeyed so even if you stand up and you say it you you can be give conflicting orders if you just don’t you just look like you’re unsure of what you’re doing although it is possible for the new leader who has lacked experience to imitate the manner and tone of wiser leaders around them only practice and command develops the appropriate manner and tone and I would go further to say it’s not just about practicing you don’t gonna become a good actor what you want to do is you want to believe in what you saying you want to care about what you say we know know what what you say next lack of a confident manner inevitably interferes with command so also may a manner that betrays indecision for men respond to the signs of indecision by withholding or delaying action the rule is that a leader should make up his mind and arrive at that decision before he gives orders very obvious but not so obvious cuz people screw it up when he confronts his men he must be ready to commit himself to this course or that men will accept assurance for competence and they do not want competence and they do want competence in leader now this is again this is a situation where I men will accept assurance for confidence that’s not readily true because just because you’re if you assure yourself the only way you’re gonna be sure yourself is if you are competent unless you’re one of these small fractions of people that are con men right a con man that can be at the school cuz it do everyone like that’s you’re a con man if you’re really good at that it can line to people and tell them something that you don’t believe in fine it’ll work sometimes if you’re great at it might work more often than that if you’re a normal person and you want to be a really good leader you shouldn’t be just using your confidence to overcome the fact that you’re don’t believe in what you’re doing and it’s gonna be really hard to do that it is really hard to do that people have really good lie detectors in their minds hmm this is a great section what soldiers think of leaders for the first time in the history of armies the army of the United States is undertaking to find out what its enlisted personnel think about a large number of things important to the army some thousands of soldiers have been interviewed at length and one of the subjects about which they were questioned is army leadership what the soldiers said makes it very clear that the quality of leadership in an army is the most important single determiner of morale and performance did everyone just hear that what soldiers said makes it very clear that the quality of leadership in an army is the most important single determiner of morale and performance what do we say now at Ashkelon front we say leadership is the most important thing on the battlefield i luckily don’t have to pay the writer of this book to say that because that’s the same thing leadership is the most important thing on the battlefield is the single most important determinant of morale and performance continuing on the relationship between men and officers commissioned and non-commissioned determines the fighting spirit of an army quite as much as the ability of the soldiers to take training to us in fact it turns out that these human relations are much more important to morale than beefsteak warm socks ball games and vaudeville shows or what the men believe about the war what they think with the relationship that you have with your

people is more important than all these other things it’s more important than their actual belief in what they’re doing hmm more important than their belief in the war continue on among the hundred and fifty so items covered in in in the interview 77 proved to be definitely associated with morale and of the twenty most closely related to morale sixteen have to do with man to officer relations what the men think of their leaders is then of utmost importance to the army and to the successful prosecution of the war roughly in order of their association with good leadership in the minds of the enlisted men are the following points so here’s what makes a good leader one ability competence comes first the good officer must know his stuff for on this depends the confidence in his leadership boom and in interestingly that is proof of what I just said that if you don’t believe in what you’re doing you don’t know what you’re doing everyone’s gonna sense it so competence number one number two next to the ability next to ability is interest in the welfare of the soldier the officer who can be trusted to help the soldier in time of need or who would be accessible for personal advice is a good officer so you got to you got to be caring about your men number three promptness in making decisions is next number four good teacher or instructor follows the leader who has the patience and the ability to make things clear to get men under him to get to make things clear to the men under him is valued for that reason so you got to be a good teacher number five judgment common sense and the ability to get things done follow in next judgment and common sense isn’t it interesting common sense so what you know what we wanted we have some common sense and that horribly cliched saying of common sense sometimes isn’t very common you know and it’s a cliche cuz it’s true yes the only times I’ve been sitting in a big meeting planning you know and said something that was so obvious so it’s a such common sense and had people kind of jaw drop at this amazing statement which was completely obvious mm-hm sometimes common sense isn’t too common yeah it’s only common to you it’s like relative you know like you know that’s why it’s never like it shouldn’t say never but it’s not that good of an idea generally seem to be like it’s common so and be like mad at someone for not knowing quote-unquote common yes no it’s not good and it’s not good when you when you make a statement that is common sense to say it condescendingly like this is just common sense everyone you need to do this yeah and then everyone did already is mad at you yeah they’re resentful of you yeah just from the total and the tonal and then on top of that you got your arms crossed and you’re shaking hands berbils Sara Armstrong verbal cues yes yeah Mensa because common sense in California is different than common sense in Texas some of it possibly oh yeah yeah common sense in Texas is different than California I’ll tell you that’s a good point you are correct seeking yeah the numbers gonna be on you when you start doing that stuff the condescending deal here we go number six the good leader does not boss you around when there is no good reason for it soldiers dislike an officer who throws his rank around who tests his own authority continually they sense that he is not sure of himself let that one sink in if you’re bossing people around using your rank to make things happen your people don’t like you yeah and there’s someone that’s ago I’m not here for my people like you like me you’re wrong if your people don’t like you they will not perform as well as people that do like you near their leader number seven the man who tells you when you have done a good job rates well as a good leader failure and commendation is a common complaint among men in the ranks the best incentive to good work is the prospect that it will be noticed and remembered by the leader solid next and I’m that’s something I don’t do a lot of I’m not like okay good job buddy but I will say that when I do tell someone they did a good job they know that I mean it yeah usually pretty fired up that I said it to him you know would agree with that

number eight physical strength and good bill to come next you’re nodding your head over there ethical choice well I agree Jack because I mean okay so in at risk of sounding like may be disparaging any one in particular or any type person in particular but I’m just saying this is like factually so you ever watch it like a self defense video yes and no matter what yes because my agrees I’m I follow Mick dojo life yeah Lister and Joe Rogan’s reposts those McDo Joe life things but yeah there’s all kinds of weird self-defense things and I know where you’re going with this yes yes so physical you know if self-defense guy he hasn’t looked like he could what make it up a flight of stairs yes and you’re thinking bro I’m not gonna listen to anything that you say right which technically his physique does not prove the effectiveness of his his tennis true it doesn’t but what about when he’s got the sign hanging up in the background that says honor strength and discipline and only discipline he has is putting away that quarter pounders with cheese daily and that’s that’s the point you know so yeah it’s like bread is something and I again I don’t want disparage anyone system or whatever but yeah man if I’m a soldier or a listener or a follower and I’m gonna first impression right I come up to you it’s me something and you’re like it’s sloppy you’re sloppy person I’ll tell you that’s at the very least that’s the strike again there’s no doubt about it and they’re just just even me and Ramadi and telling them like I say you will wear a square to a uniform because first impressions mean something yes and so if somebody shows up to be in charge of you and they can’t take charge of their own health it’s an indicator that maybe they got some other issues especially I mean then this is clearly directed at people that are in the military because military is a physical job we pretty much regardless of what you’re doing in the military you have to have some physical capability to put on a rucksack and go and walk for a long period of time yeah you got to be able to do these certain physical activities and if it’s apparent from looking at you that you can’t do that respect is going down and by the way this isn’t this isn’t me talking this isn’t you talking this is what these thousands of soldiers that filled out this survey said hey physical strength and good build come next that’s what’s respected and it’s definitely not mandatory because I mean Napoleon was like a tiny guy right so it’s not a mandatory thing but don’t be out of shape yeah I can tell you that get in shape hey get in shape how’s that if you’re not in shape get in shape it’ll be better for you as a leader it’ll be better for you as a human being it will help everything that you’re doing so do it number nine good education sense of humor and guts or courage number ten impartiality is next leaders who do not save the dirty jobs for fellows they don’t like are valued the good beer is fair to all in his command so be fair it’s common sense which I guess isn’t allegedly net next in importance is industry leaders who do as little work as they can get away with are not respected by the enlisted men don’t be standing around with your hands in your pockets that’s home do that twelve when an officer gives orders in such a way that you clearly know what to do is a mark of merit as a leader soldiers also like an officer with a clear strong voice there you go that makes sense the remaining qualities which the soldiers mentioned came toward the bottom of the list they are undoubtedly related to good leadership but they are less important not hot-tempered do not drive you too hard keep promises the kind of fellows you could have a good time with not too proud of their rank are all characteristics which some men want in their leaders but there is no general agreement about them many leaders are considered good in spite of failures on these parts the chief things a man wants from a leader are thus competence and interest in his welfare the orders of a man who does not know his stuff cannot be depended on they are subject to change encounter man an incompetent leader teaches caution and hesitation and following his lead he becomes a signal for lack of action on the part of the soldier indecision in a leader has the same effect on a soldier as ignorance has no soldier can follow a leader whose uncertain which way to turn essential quality of any leader is to take lead and show the direction quickly

clearly emphatically and with enthusiasm without these qualities a man is not even a good leader for his hunting dog now the interesting thing about that is there’s a there’s a little dichotomy that reveals itself it’s like okay you got to be decisive and give direction quickly clearly and emphatically that that’s great that sounds good what happens if you’re not sure what happens if you’re truly not sure which direction to go then what you do is you say hold up just form a perimeter where we got to get into resection on the map that is so much better than saying all right well we’re gonna push a little further you know what I mean like I’m not really sure where we are and hold on and wait if you just go hey look we’re a little turned around right now we need to read couple resections we’re gonna check the GPS whatever we’re gonna do we’re gonna find out exactly we’re on then we’re gonna move forward take five yeah it never goes I’ll cool it chuckles got this under wraps we’re good I guess technically that is being decisive it is being decisive yes you can be decisive in in trying to uncover what the next move is gonna be because you’re not sure but sometimes people try and you know BS their way through a scenario and that and that again you’re you’re you don’t know what you’re doing and you’re proving that so it’s best to be truthful and say hey look we’re turned around right now we’re gonna form the perimeter we’re gonna cut a resection we’re gonna find out where we are and then we’re gonna move you got ten minutes boom everyone’s okay cool mmm good times so those that is a great list of what what people look for from leaders and sure it’s directed at the military but almost every single one of those is equally applicable to any leadership position next the role of the soldier part of what makes a man a good soldier his own is his own adoption of the soldiers role he comes to think and speak of himself as a soldier what a man thinks of himself affects his behavior the rail straightener which is the skilled worker who the machine that straightens railroad rails is one man when he thinks of himself with pride as a rail straightener he becomes another when he begins as he made to regard himself as a mere wage slave the rail straightener takes pride in his work does a good job is happy the wage slave lets crooked rails get by because he doesn’t care in the same way the soldier who thinks proudly of himself as a soldier is doing a service to both himself and the army how smart is that that is very good yeah so it’s like your um kind of introducing a sense of identity right and they like their job like this is what you do and people do that you know for themself like oh yeah you know I’m a whatever yeah I remember sometime this is actually quite a while ago somebody posted a picture of a very intricate plumbing job and it was like 8 million copper pipes perfectly spaced to come in and I was like this dude is proud to be a plumber and it shows shit so yes if you are in a job get into the job right and let me tell you this if you’re not into the job and you want to get out of the job the best way for you to get out of the job is by getting into the job you’re doing something that you don’t care about care about it because otherwise people look at you like why would I promote you and even you can’t even dig this ditch correctly if you’re out there digging that ditch like you like you mean it like you make trying to make a perfect ditch in the world do it yeah certain forms of punishment published just public disgrace ridicule all disturb the role of the soldier and may lessen or destroy his usefulness to the army and is a amenability to leadership the noncommissioned or commissioned officer who rides one of his men in such a manner as to make him doubt his own value as a soldier shattering the man’s best motive for good performance the senior leader who reprimands a junior in the presence of his men reduces that juniors value to the army and almost never good to a little someone in front of the team good leadership on the other hand causes men to build up each for himself a particular role a specialty it means a great deal to a man to take pride in being a soldier into being a sharpshooter an aviation mechanic a truck driver I’ll cook or a radio operator competent leaders criticize a peak a poor piece of work condemned a mistake but never take but take care to never make a soldier feel he is a failure at his job so you can criticize the mistake that they made but don’t criticize their their ability in that job when a soldier begins to regard himself as being part of his unit and when his job has become part of his role then team workers are enormous ly

improved the soldier who thinks of himself as only a private temporarily on this or that assignment is a different man from the soldier who thinks of himself as a necessary member of his outfit good information then here’s how we get selection of leaders rank is no guarantee of the ability to judge leadership in others nor are good leaders necessarily competent to assess good leadership in others the test of competent judge is his successful predictions in the past so you might be the highest-ranking guy but that doesn’t mean you can necessarily figure out who’s gonna be a good leader unless you show repetitively that you can select good leaders the interview itself is not a fair or accurate test of the soldier the man who would make a good leader may be a modest man who fails in an interview to exhibit those qualities that would make his men believe in him trust him and admire him and the man who could never secure the loyalty of serve subordinates may nevertheless be by assurance and poise by voice and manner mislead inexperienced judges as to his capacity so all the time I get asked what how should i interview what should I ask you can only figure out so much fruit when I get asked that I always say okay who in here thought they were hiring the best guy that they’ve ever hired and he turned out to be a loser and everyone raises their hand many times have you taken a chance on someone that you weren’t sure if they’re gonna work out and they turned out to be a stud everyone raises their hand it’s really hard to judge who’s gonna work well and who’s not oh yeah and that kind of goes for like friends too you know like they’re I mean men that happens all the time where you meet someone you just now you don’t really feel them that much but they end up being your best friend or something like that like years later or something like that it’s weird like that like certain situations even certain first impressions you know that are like they’d only indicate the long haul you know yeah yeah it takes a little bit of time to uncover what people are real about really about in many cases I can tell you like I feel pretty good about judging people yeah and I’m probably like 70% accurate you know that’s not agree like I feel pretty good about it but I know that I’m only batting 70% yeah which is like a see but the it I wonder if and do you think this do you think that there’s certain things that are maybe even subconscious about people that you can sort of tell after just talking on for a second whether it be I don’t think pretty if they reacted and I got asked this just popped up my mind I got asked I was at a event and it wasn’t it was an interesting event it wasn’t with a specific company which normally are working with a company and I was just at an event where I speaking to multiple different companies and and this woman stood up to ask a question and as soon as she stood up I was like this is gonna be she does not want to hear my answer no matter what I say she stood up with a just arrogance dripping off her and and just I was well she’s not gonna she’s not gonna like this answer whatever answer I give whatever question she asks yeah she is not she’s not listening so that that thought that you had right there when it by the way it goes correct yeah it was basically when she stood up and then three words out of her mouth yeah where it’s just like clamors like um yeah yeah and and it’s also interesting because you know she just when you’re working with a single company they’re all kind of on board and they’re all kind of like they’re maybe they’re not on board with what you’re saying but they’re unified as a group lying to move in a certain direction so we have a random group of people and the woman stands up and I could tell right away yep she’s got it she does she there’s no answer I’m gonna give her that’s gonna make her happy yeah what did it feel like it was like subconscious like was it like or were you like see the with a visual can see it was visual cues and then you know the opening of the question yeah I can’t remember what it was but it was like oh yes confirmed yeah let me tell you something it was one of those it was one of those you know and so what I did was I preempted my answer and I said you’re you know cuz then she asked a question and I said you’re actually not gonna like my answer to this question but I’m just gonna tell you what I’ve seen and I appreciate the question and then I answered the question of course she didn’t like the answer you know why she didn’t like the answer because the answer was the the leadership question and the problem with the people that you’re having is not a problem with the people that you have it’s a problem with you which is the way it is with all leadership problems when you have a problem with your team your team isn’t performing the way you want them to do it’s it’s is it because they’re lazy oh they don’t do the mission correctly whose fault is that you’re the leader yeah you’re the leader in charge of the people so if they’re not doing the mission that you want them to execute it or how you want them to execute it you can’t blame them they

literally work for you you are the boss of them mmm so let’s list look do you want to explain to me how you give them the direction you want to talk to me about like what what sort of direction you give them how you communicate with them and we went down that road you know but at the end of the day she sat down with no she took nothing I said on board zero and and this is a fairly rare occasion you know that’s why I remember this was a couple years ago but I remember it because I thought yep she didn’t she’s when she stood up I said up she’s not listening to me and then she’s not gonna like my answer and then when she sat down I said yep she’s gonna walk out of here and go I can’t even know what he’s talking about yeah it’s not my pearl it’s not my problem that my team is all jacked up it’s not my prod it’s not my fault that my team is lazy yeah one of her key components of her statement was that her team was lazy yeah and they weren’t meeting the standards and the answer to that question isn’t you know beat them harder because that doesn’t work the answer that question is you as a leader are not doing a good job of leading them or there is a chance that your team is completely incompetent and you need to train them or get rid of them guess what both of those things are your responsibility you’re the leader you need to train them or you need to get rid of them so worse answer in the world yeah and the best it’s the worst dancer in the world it hurts you know life talks about this they’ve talked about like when he was like what he’s writing no bad teams only bad leaders he’s literally thinking about things that he did where he was blaming his team you know and he’s just looking he’s looking back on here I was blaming my team and none of it was my fault and that’s that’s the revelation you have yeah bruh I’ve seen literally witnessed this and like a bunch of times to where people would stand up which with what I thought was sort of that sort of feel that tone like oh like they gonna they’re just gonna stump you mr. Burt mr. know-it-all you know kind of attitude and then you tell them that answer like it’s like hey it’s your responsibility you know and then it I can see their mind just totally changing yeah they accept it and actually going back to this woman when I was talking to this woman I I immediately tried to like frame it inst in the most humble way to not offend her ego you know what I told her when I told her you know you’re not gonna like the answer I give you I didn’t really like that I was like look I’m gonna give you an answer that I mean I got a feeling you’re probably not even gonna like this answer but I just gonna tell you kind of what I’ve seen you know so I I tried to do my best to not hit her ego in the face a problem was her ego was big and strong and dug in and leading the lid and I was leading out front and so it was you know and that always bums me out it doesn’t happen very often like I said I mean this is two years ago or something like that and I’m remembering this person asking this question I’m gonna think of myself then she doesn’t want to hear what I’m gonna do what she wanted me to say yeah you’re right your team is so horrible and yeah get the exception you know they’re probably just hey you know the world and they don’t want to do good like like you know what it is they probably don’t want to do a good job they probably don’t want to get promoted they probably don’t want to make any extra money they probably want to go home unsatisfied with your job that’s you that’s their deal right and I’m sorry that you’ve been burdened with this horrible team that feels that way yeah right cuz that’s absolutely true you don’t have a whole you might have one or two people on your team that aren’t very enthusiastic but you’re not gonna have a whole team that no one wants to do a good job no one wants to put in any extra effort no one wants to work hard but you don’t have a whole team like that and by the way if you do have a team like that guess what it is your responsibility to get rid of those members that don’t want to do what they need to do to win hmm yeah a lot of times when it happens you win it would I lead people down that that question if they’ll be like hey you know I got this department and I’ll say oh okay well you know I got this department they got these these mid-level managers and they’re a horrible I’m like oh well that’s that’s terrible who’s in charge of the mid-level manners oh well it’s this guy okay who’s in charge of that guy oh this other guy who’s in charge that guy well I am mm-hmm okay so whose fault is this yeah yeah it’s your fault yeah it’s truly your fault it’s funny you’ll do this technique which I always find pretty impressive like as far as a little chip it’s almost like it’s not a chess game because it’s not you against the masker of the question but there’s an element to it we’re just like that like how you’d like make them answer their own questions kind of thing or but you go um you’ll say oh do you think that they just want to do a bad job oh no no no nothing like that oh do you think that like that they want your

company to fail you know if those questions yes and that goes up and down the chain of command to because someone’s like well my boss doesn’t do this I’m good you think your boss wants to lower your profit yeah do you think your boss wants to do things that are less safe I think your boss wants you to have people leaving on a regular basis do you think your boss wants more turnover do you think your boss you go right down the list of courses no no no no no and eventually you realize oh okay yeah problem here is me I’m not I’m eunuch a ting well enough to explain to my boss what I need yes yes that’s a good one but it’s good to also not only as like something fun to kind of watch or whatever but you know you watch them kind of gain understanding that is cool for sure but it helps because it helps even me or people listening like put it into perspective you know like men no one’s against you brah like yeah you just just hey you know make some right moves and say some right things and man get in just get on the same page and by the way most of the time when someone is against you because there are times you know you got that person that’s a just wants to get promoted and they’re looking to step all it’s like do a good job do a great job keep working hard make them look good what are you talking about no you make them look good it will come back it will come back back to the book the only proof of leadership is leadership and the best thing to do is give it a chance to emerge and then have competent men judge whether it has appeared so this is another this is hard to know what people are like until you actually put them in the situation although young men can make excellent leaders leadership develops with experience no doubt about that it is known moreover that the men of a platoon can size each other up effectively can pick out men who deserve advancement more consistently than leaders can the men know confidence when they see it thus it appears that the officer who fails to find out quietly the opinions of his subordinates when he is selecting a man for promotion is overlooking a valid source of information one that is in the long run far more accurate than his own judgment so listen to your people leader next section very important or important leadership can be learned there are no born leaders all leadership is based on learning how to deal with men nearly all leaders improve after they have had some experience in command some improve faster than others and some continue to improve all others do not so there are no born leaders ok we know my debate on this I actually disagree with that well I should say this ok there might not be born leaders but there are people that are born with certain aptitudes with for a variety of leadership qualities and somebody posted something on social media that said there’s an ax gene there is a gene that you have or don’t have as a human being that relates to your ability to articulate so guess what if you are born with that dream gene and you have a high level ability to articulate and communicate with other human beings you are born with more aptitude to become a leader could you end up still being a terrible leader yes because there’s some people that are very articulate that are horrible leaders but it is one attribute that you are born with doesn’t necessarily make you a leader and it gives you more aptitude to be leader so maybe that is correction I’m born a leader but you’re born with a little more aptitude to be a leader back to the book consider the qualities which enlisted men believe important in leaders the first is competency in ability competence is based on learning the good leader has learned his job thoroughly so there you go that makes sense his men can trust him to know what he’s doing he knows not only what he learned in his training courses but he’s kept it up to date if he is an artilleryman he knows how the Germans use artillery and what guns they have this the rule is a simple one know your stuff so that I agree with you learn to be competent second D competence is the officers interest in the soldier as a man a demonstrated interest that gives the soldier confidence that when he stands up to hardship or is in trouble the hardship is a necessary part of the job and his troubles give his officer concerned so you got to care about your people and well actually what’s interesting about this whole section if you remember this is this is saying there’s no born leaders but there’s a whole section in the first part of this book that talks about peep men have different aptitudes and skills that they either have or they don’t have and some of it had to do with you know you were a truck driver in the civilian sector so you’re gonna make a

good struck driver in the military but it also talked about how some people aren’t don’t have the aptitude for certain jobs so they’re being a little bit hypocritical here it’s a little bit okay so we’re talking about caring about people and here it says every man can buy can buy practice improve his skill in human understanding and increase his repertoire of actions that demonstrate interest in others the rule here is is less simple it is know your men and show it know their names their history their weaknesses their good points their morale begin by studying their qualification cards so that’s another skill that you can get better at decisiveness is a skill harder to acquire but it can with attention be it cultivated when you have a hard choice remember you do not usually have to make a snap judgment careful consideration weighing the merits of alternate courses is not indecision your men will respect your judgment even more if you deserve if you reserve decision until you are in possession of all the facts necessary for a wise choice do not set up a council of war to pass things by vote you are the leader but seek advice when you need it and do not hesitate to call on your subordinates for counsel if they are qualified to give it but choose your course before you give the orders which we already heard so there’s and this is also a little bit contrary or not contrary but this is a addendum to what was being said earlier that you got to be decisive and here’s saying look you got to be decisive but you can take your time you want to measure everything out another suggest another suggestion to the leader is remember when your men do not understand you that it is your fault you must talk their language plain language if you cannot express yourself clearly it may be because you do not understand the subject yourself think things through carefully before you try to explain so there you go a little extreme ownership a little simplicity in there a leader then to be worthy in the eyes of his men would do well to follow these commands number one be competent number two be loyal to your men as well as to your country and army number three know your men understand them love them be proud of them number four accept responsibility and give clear decisive orders number five teach your men by putting them through the necessary action number six give only necessary orders but number seven get things done number eight be fair number nine work hard number ten remember that a leader is a symbol men need to respect and trust you don’t let them down so there you go they may wrap it all back into from everything we started started this thing talking about when they’re talking about discipline and obedience this whole thing about being a leader has nothing to do with obedience it has to do with being a good leader and that’s how they wrap up that chapter that’s solid information in there now this next section is about mobs and panic and what’s interesting about this is as a human being in charge of other human beings you have to understand how mobs and panic unfold going back to the book men and a mob act just as much in keeping with their past training and habits as they would if they were alone but part of this training which men get from earliest childhood is to follow the example of other individuals and also to respond to their gestures facial expressions and tones of voice as well as other as well as the spoken words of others that’s an interesting concept isn’t it and it’s a little trick statement because what it’s saying is hey when you’ve got a mob of people they are acting in accordance with how they’ve been trained but then you think yourself was in the army then they wouldn’t act that way but then it goes on to say if they’ve been trained since day one to imitate other people hmm so you’re actually fighting against the rest of their training when you’re trying to get them to not do something that everyone else is doing hmm and by the way it’s it’s an important thing that usually is beneficial and it goes into some of that here when a soldier misunderstands a command he starts to execute it as he interpreted it but suppose in the middle of a movement he becomes suddenly aware that the other men and ranks are doing

something very different immediately he corrects his action to do what others are doing so most of the time it’s beneficial that little mob mentality mm-hmm in the same way the sight of a leader running or galloping to the rear in a combat area may start a whole company heading after him on the double his example can become as much a command as or order as his words mostly it is a good thing that men naturally follow the example of others it makes the world run more smoothly yet the good principal has vicious results when mobs form or panic starts Y Moms for moms form because someone event or condition has brought people together and captured the attention of every person in the crowd usually the mob is angry about something and it is and it’s angry excitement makes it ready for action panic based on fear is something else so the big differentiate between the mob that is angry and the mob that is afraid that’s panicking besides a common focus of attention so that’s one element is a common focus of attention emotion is characteristic of all mops since a mob is driven by powerful emotion it isn’t this necessarily crazy to do something it wants action so it only takes a cry of Lynch him or burn it to set the mob in motion mostly when you get into a crowd you join it you do just what other people do the sight of others seizing stones or starting an attack so grips the men watching them that they think of no other course of action mobs therefore are uncritical interesting statements about mobs I’m trying to think when have you been a part of a mob before and I mean in that regard no I’ve been at some shows and by that I mean hardcore shows back in the day where the mob would start to get something but you know like weather was breaking down a barrier and yeah you get swept up in that mob mentality yeah it’s groupthink yeah this one’s talking about panic soldiers do not often form mobs mob action among soldiers usually occurs when they are away from the usual reminders and circumstances of discipline when they are on leave and mingling with men from other organizations without leadership but panic can occur in the best drilled thoroughly seasoned troops it can occur in the midst of combat some of the greatest routes in history have been cases of panic the panicked group is much like a mob but it acts from fear not anger its attention is focused on the object of fear it’s thought and its talk is of danger and disaster its aim is escape action becomes definite and mob like only when obstacles to escape are encountered it doesn’t take much to set off a panic among troops who are panic ripe then a single cry of gas or run or we’re cut off may start a mad flight and here talks about panic ripeness anything that makes men tense on edge jittery and oversensitive to slight noises half-hidden sites or sudden movements will make them easy victims of panic for this reason prolonged anxiety makes men panic ripe so does over fatigue too much beer or liquor or a hangover so does lack of proper food especially deficiency of B vitamins and so does exhaustion from lack of sleep prolonged exposure to noise and alarm of modern battle may produce the jumpy state of mind from which panic arises one main cause of panic is lack of training training must cover practice and defense and retreat as well as in attack if panic is to be avoided if the retreat is not to turn into a rout the sight of one or several men running to the rear the sight of others throwing away their gear weapons may cause a general scramble and discarding of arms bad morale is another cause of panic rumor sometimes plays an important part in readying men for panic poor leadership and make the ground ready for panic empowering the confidence in command necessary to hold troops to the performance of duty how to stop a panic this is very important once a panic has begun the only way to halt it is to capture attention and then provide positive clear commands leaders must act with decision firmness and courage if no officer is present any self possessed man can assume leadership and give the scared men what they need clear confident direction so I think the important is to report important parts you’ve gotta get their attention and then you gotta give simple clear concise commands positive commands and then it goes on to say but the best way to stop

a panic is never to have it at all train all men thoroughly so that they have confidence in themselves their leaders their weapons train their leaders and select the best of them let good leaders build up good morale avoid hunger thirst and boredom as much as possible to do in war and the conditions that lead to nervous tension and complaint if you could not avoid them and war is no bed of roses fight them with good morale fight the feeling of insecurity tell the men all they need to know let them know all possible information about the enemy where he is what he’s like how he attacks what weapons he is using last but not least build up faith be sure the men know why they are fighting why it is a good cause let them be sure that their officers are with them all the way faith in an ideal + faith in your leaders + faith and other fellows in your unit can win victory against superior forces so there you go you gotta watch out for that next section differences among races and people’s modern Total War has placed a new responsibility on the shoulders of the soldier once his only task was to destroy the enemy but now psychological warfare requires him to play a new role he must help win allies for Uncle Sam in many strange lands and this is what’s interested we always think of World War well we think of World War 2 for sure as hey this is total war you’re not worried about hearts and minds which was you know the campaign it really in Vietnam it was hearts and minds that’s where that kind of originated and certainly in Iraq and Afghanistan we think all those guys didn’t have to deal with this back of the day they have to deal with this now we have to worry about the civilian population Allah’s guess what we’re wrong hmm 1942 they’re talking about this and it goes into there are no infallible recipes for making friends the world around but there are two basic rules for all soldiers in the manual of psychological arms number one mind your manners number two understand and respect the manners of strangers especially strangers who might help both you and the cause for which you are fighting seems pretty obvious and no one thinks that in world war two they had to watch their manners hmm but you do next one talking about race color of the skin is often the basis for prejudice because it is so clearly a badge of difference between people’s a mark that sets one people apart as different as not one of us American whites have been prejudiced not only against black skins but also against yellow and against copper skins of the American Indian the United States excluded both Japs and Chinese from immigration when our Western states became afraid of their cheap labor and the old German Kaiser invented the slogan the Yellow Peril when he wished to unite Europe against the Asiatics what I find interesting about this whole thing is this is 1942 so this is pre civil rights movement in America and yet we find the military forward leaning on civil rights and we’ll get to that sometimes the prejudice against the Negroes flares up in the army it is not a problem however in a camp where it is well understood that a soldier in the United States uniform is a soldier not a white or a Negro Christian or Jew rich man or poor but a soldier and as such worthy of respect and not everyone feels race prejudice there are plenty of white men who are constantly meeting and working with black brown and yellow men of education culture brains and ability these white men know that skin color is not a sign of inferiority or superiority and they tend to forget about it or at least to regard it is or at least regarded as unimportant these white men are numerous in Europe South America Asia and Africa where the races are mixed up in business and in politics the American soldier will be on the right track when he realizes that the differences are superficial that other races while different from his own are not necessarily inferior he will know that he cannot tell just from a man’s color whether that man will bind up his wounds guide him to a hospital when he has lost feed him if he is hungry or help him repel enemy invaders it will help him to remember that skin color in itself means nothing about the intelligence wisdom

honesty bravery or kind leanness of a man if he studies carefully the people of other races whom he meets he can satisfy himself that this is true so again 1942 pre civil rights and the military saying hey guess what folks race doesn’t matter and by the way is still a segregated army but they’re moving in the right direction how to win friends in foreign lands every American soldier in a foreign land becomes an American diplomat he has his role to play in making strange people into Americans America’s friends here are some rules he will find helpful again this is so interesting to read because I’m telling you when you’re in the military you think all these guys back to the night T or two didn’t have to worry about that they just went over there kicked ass and it’s like here they were getting the briefs this is the brief this is the big brief and here’s some things that that will help you be a good diplomat and this is applicable like this is put when you don’t work with a new company guess what you wanna you want you do want to win the hearts and minds here’s a couple tips one try first of all to understand strange customs habits and ways of thinking x’ number two respect these customs and habits of thought even when you can’t understand them and even when they seem unpleasant or effeminate or crazy three when you cannot respect foreign countries then suppress your disapproval stifle your emotions when you can respect foreign customs show it you can win many friends for America in this simple way five when you associate with foreign people try to adopt their manners do not ask them to adopt yours suppress your own peculiarities as far as possible when they are contrary to the customs of the land number seven when foreign customs are none of your business then mind only your own business number eight be friendly after all the only way to make other men like you is to like them and number nine take people as they come like them for what they are not for the way they happen to measure up to your own standards what you expected of them so really good guidance just in general for humans those interesting there what do you say if it’s like if their customs are effeminate or yeah so I remember when I was learning Spanish in high school and they were talking about the difference between Spanish in Spain and Mexico and every you know it’s a different caste ly in Spanish versus that’s what they speak in Spain oh well yeah and in Mexico they speak I don’t know if they call it Mexican Spanish mm-hmm but it’s fast so I remember you know in part of the the you know the course they were talking about different customs and stuff like that so I guess what you know in in Spain they say the S is with a lisp like a tea you know or the Z’s it’s just a little bit yeah but there was this one custom that I can remember that they’re like oh yeah it’s not uncommon to see like men holding hands you and their friend you know like but guys just holding hands that’s how you know and I remember thinking that’s interesting you know because that’s something that’s really far from custom here yeah yeah but we will have her hand like our arm around but you know when you’re a kid you got your arms around your boys not just walking around like that sometimes I guess I don’t know well you’re okay you’re a kid yeah you’re walking off through the the football field after a good play sure you might have your arm right yeah yeah you’re not walking down the sidewalk heading to a movie with your owner buddy that’s not happening yes so you’re right and that that custom of holding hands yeah is really common throughout like dudes holding hands is a real common throughout the rest of the world like lots of different places do that yeah and it’s definitely we definitely get some funny situations where the the the seal that’s you know super macho and he’s we’re over working with some in some foreign country and some guys you know they’re talking to him they start to like him or wherever you start getting along yeah we’re gonna start holding hands I’m gonna walk over to the galley hey you see the team guys we like not at somebody needs to brief you on our customs we don’t do that I don’t know real well according to the book that’s what I’m saying you know just go ahead and homeboy yeah but yeah that’s the kind of thing that that is rough for a

minute and especially American dudes to get over we’re just gonna walk around holding hands or like you know how um in Europe they’ll like kiss not necessarily on the lips necessarily right but yes the chief right Yeah right he tried to kiss me on the cheek Doug that would make me weird for the day yeah weird for me if I suddenly ran yeah no kissing is is no factor in much of the world for a guy to kiss another guy like hey good to see you just plant one on me well here in America it’s like hey good to see you keep out of my personal space yeah but actually you know what to be honest um I I don’t care like people actually some of my friends they you know some you know like the Italian mafia kind of thing like they’ll build you you know and they’ll do that so my friends they kind of you know know what the you know what thing broke down my personal space more than anything else yes I do yes oh yeah the whole thing of like hugging another dude when you see him yeah I think that stemmed from jiu-jitsu Oprah I don’t remember ever doing that before jujitsu yeah now I have to think more but it is because you Jitsu is so close anyways that when you you know you’re just like that’s the way it is yeah so Jiu Jitsu once again spreading for the spreading customs around the world yeah taking down boundaries boundaries they broke down boundaries for me in Hawaii there’s a lot of kissing that goes on mostly between um like between slightly you know like girls and guys like even like if it’s like your friend’s wife you kiss them on the cheek that’s how like it’s in fact if you don’t it’s kinda like that was kind of standoffish kind of thing not a huge deal but it’s like it’s that normal in Hawaii um but guising guys you know I don’t I don’t think it that that’s an issue like if someone kissed me on my cheek when they saw me and it was a guy I love you bro or whatever like that wouldn’t that wouldn’t move me either way they’d be like yeah fine yeah but I’m saying if you did because you have like a specific type of personality yeah that’s a new thing yeah that would be a new exploration I think we’re doing like a Facebook live or something and we’re talking about cauliflower here uh-huh and um and I was like oh else I said something about Leia if your ears are like soft and then I win and you were right next to me and I like like flicked your ear or something and when I watched the live later the look on your face was like you were genuinely not in a big way but genuinely slightly offended but oh that you’ve yeah you’re here like it’s real micro is that there I was that much just to Academy when I was in Virginia Beach and there was a buddy mind another seal and I had gotten him into jujitsu and he was a small guy like 140 145 scenario and but you know he was like a white belt had been training and whatnot mm-hmm and um we were both so now we were training and one night I showed up at the Academy and we both showed up at the same time like a similar time and in this Academy it was Gustavo Machado and googa is his nickname great dude and so we and googas Academy at the time was pretty small and had one bathroom and the bathroom is where you would change so that put your gear on or whatever so my buddy goes in there and he starts changing and me being just like a team guy I’m like whatever I’m going into so and he’s a lot smaller than me and I’m a blue belt at this time so you know there’s there’s that level of of you know like he knows that the situation unfolds I can submit him that’s the way it is and so I just bust into the bathroom and he’s in there he’s changing so he’s you know I don’t know if he was completely naked but he was pretty close and I come in and just drop my rip off my shirt drop my shorts and and and and I hear him go oh there he goes and he goes uh think of a happy place we both started laughing but ya don’t care about any of that stuff so there you go try and try and accept other people’s customs and don’t try and impose your customs on them or you’re not doing good for the diplomacy of the country yeah yeah like even when you go to like France not to keep the customs thing going too long but well it’ll be France or wherever right mm-hmm here’s the it’s a hard one so let’s say you go to the beach where they can go topless they’re at the beach right what if you’re with your wife or whatever in your wife’s like oh we’re in France I want to go topless you know mm-hmm how do you feel about that whatever all good I don’t think we’re going to a topless beach

actually look at what if she wanted to go though she doesn’t all right the way I would see it yeah we’re so conservative right isn’t that crazy we’re super conservative yeah actually Puritans are legit yeah I like the Puritans amen that’s the England there’s a little thread of Puritanism up in New England and I was yeah I can dig it at a topless beach I would let totally let my wife go totally except if there was anyone there that we knew interesting so like if my brother’s friends or if my friend unless it was her girlfriends I wouldn’t care but yeah if it was any of our friends that we knew that were yeah guys yeah that would bother me I think well my wife was just you should be wearing a swimsuit this is no real big discussion right yet no I dig it would you wear you know how they wear like the more what like the trunks that are like speedo type trunks that’s how in you know it’s a it’s a speedo yeah yeah yeah would that be all you or we don’t stick with this no I wear sir shorts all right the books it’s lettuce in Brazil you know it’s called a son cow yeah oh yeah and Dean Lister this the I’m good friends with Dean sure he went through a phase of wearing a some gal yeah a lot to train him and like that at all dudes basically wearing a speedo and beating me up yeah not fun yeah and he’d go with no shirt too sure so yeah that’s um yeah well we’re that Conan used to do that no they used to be pretty common for yeah it’s definitely faded right now yeah for sure did the idea of just wearing the tighty whities somehow yeah wait grappling yeah for yes yeah yeah fully but on the beach though you gotta play at Brazil your normal that’s not that’s the custom but not you yeah you’re not gonna adopt that custom American dude I know bro but you when you go to these foreign lands America you know as a foreign official box me I’m just saying the book said I didn’t say the book said you know and you just know you’re gonna disobey that yeah I’m gonna stick to this your dish that’s what we do over here yes sir you don’t yes they’re trying to frame me up rumor rumor is the most primitive way of spreading stories by passing on from mouth to mouth it is just as inefficient inaccurate and unaccountable as it is primitive rumors are repeated by even by those who do not believe the tales that’s an interesting statement and it’s very true this is this this is an interesting state when you look at it from the viewpoint of fake news right now in Russian Lots rumors are repeated by even those who do not believe the tales there is a fascination about them the reason is that they cleverly designed is that cleverly designed rumors give expression to something deep in the hearts of the victims the fears suspicions forbidden hopes or daydreams which they hesitate to voice directly so if a commanding officer can keep track of the rumors that are going around among his men he will learn a great deal about their current fears and hopes he will have a sort of barometer that registers the rises and falls of their morale that’s a good point and people are freaked out we’re gonna get attacked that means everyone’s afraid that they’re gonna get attacked or we’re not gonna be seen you’re not going home on time okay everyone’s concerned about that so pay attention to those rumors a rumor is not always a lie not always a malicious story and there are uses of rumor in war you can use it for disruption you can use it as a smokescreen you can use it for discrediting news sources this is a special technique of the one doing that all the time now there’s different kinds of rumors there’s the pipe dream rumor I thought pipe dream was a modern turn there’s the pipe dream rumor which depends on wishful thinking there’s pleasure and believing and repeating what you hope is true the boogieman rumor is the opposite of the pipe dream it expresses fear not a wish the wedge driving rumor perhaps the most dangerous of all is the rumor that attempts to create hostility and distrust between allies or between particular groups within a country so you have to watch out for that what makes rumour work and I think this is probably the most important part of this section rumors thrive on fertile soil what soil is fertile lack of information about important things favor rumor rumors encouraged by discontent frustration boredom and idleness expectation Foster’s rumors censorship since it blocks important news favors rumor and from those that you can get to how to control rumor one ensure good faith in official

communications if the public loses confidence in the reliability of the communications of the Armed Forces and of the press and radio then rumors began to spread fast so you got to tell the truth to develop faith and leaders people can stand people can stand censorship and lack of news when they feel they are sure that they are not being told falsehoods and that what is being held back is being held back for a good reason that applies to all leaders from the President to the humblest schoolteacher from the general to the corporal three present as many facts as possible let the press and radio give as full and circumstantial news as they can without giving too much aid to the enemy let the Armed Forces do the same men want facts when they can’t get facts they take remember this is something that all the time at national on front will go into a company and they’re having problems with the rumors and the reason that they’re having problems with rumors is because the people the leadership is not explaining what is happening so there’s for whatever reason they decide they’re gonna close down of location you know maybe it’s because the rent was too high and they’re gonna look for a different space maybe it’s because the market had dropped down there so much that there was a losing losing money but what’s the rumor when if you don’t tell people the rumors we’re out of business oh they already shut down Pleasanton or whatever yeah we’re going down find a new job so when you don’t explain to people what’s going on it’s I just had a guy a leader who had to get rid of somebody and then it turned into a big email craziness where the guy that got fired sent his clothes email to everyone help me to miss you guys I’m sorry that didn’t work out I hope this doesn’t bode bad for everyone else like one of those write mass email yeah so and the guys going what you know what do think I should do I mean this is I I shouldn’t have to like respond and I said you don’t have to respond but if you don’t respond these people are gonna create they’re gonna run with everything he said yeah so craft an email and say hey everyone sorry to see Billy go Billy we wish you luck or maybe you don’t include Billy on the email in fact it probably wouldn’t but sorry to see Billy go here’s what happened here’s what unfolded here was our financial situation we were actually losing money in his division not for one month not for three months but for 14 straight months I had asked him repeatedly to conduct or to make these changes and he hadn’t made any changes and although I like Billy as a person I couldn’t sacrifice everyone at this company for one person what we need is to be profitable and with Billy in charge of that division we’re losing money and as the leader I can’t allow my loyalty to one person to trump my loyalty to everyone here therefore I had to let him go now we’ve gotten that rumor under control mm-hmm next keep men and women busy was it was funny as that leader was telling me like this you I never had to do this before and tell everyone in an email what’s going on well you’ve never had an email write emails relatively new you know and so it’s not like somebody was sending out on mass email good throwing darts and Spears at everyone’s from the from their email for keep men and women busy prevent idleness and monotony empty minds are easily filled with untruths and worries idle hands make busy tongues fight rumor mongering campaign against rumor expose it as enemy propaganda discredit specific rumors as inaccurate and false caricature room and this section is called psychological warfare interestingly enough death can be inflicted upon the bodies of an enemy destruction upon property but defeat is a conquest of the mind in total war economic military and psychological action are all used to bring about submission in the enemy economic action deprives the enemy of vital materials military action destroys his armies by killing capturing scattering the soldier smashing or capturing the guns tanks planes trucks and supplies but it is successful psychological action that in the end deprives the enemy of his will to resist and can spoil the individual soldier as a fighting machine by removing the one thing that makes him fight the hope of success the soldier without hope is like a tank without gas

when you come right down to it all warfare military and economic too is psychological warfare since willingness to surrender is a state of mind all these different means are used to bring about a change of mind to convert determination to resist into willingness to accept defeat the chief tool of psychological warfare the one that is most peculiar particularly psychological is propaganda since propaganda tries to change opinion the people who plan propaganda have to know all about the opinions of those they are trying to change you can’t be intelligent about changing anything unless you know what it is you’re trying to change a good point and then it talks about how you figure out what people’s opinions are you have to gather that information and how to poll for that information then it talks about a little bit about propaganda the truth is the best propaganda propaganda does not have to be dishonest or lying Hitler said that a lie will be believed if it is big enough and it may be at first but the big lies don’t stand up eventually the catches them and unmasks them the goal of propaganda is always a change in the state of mind good propaganda always starts from a fact there is a formula for victory in psychological warfare 1 the enemy must be weary he must be sick and tired and discouraged 2 the second step in psychological warfare is to turn disillusionment into despair to convince the weary enemy that victory is impossible the third step is to promise something better show him a way out the cornered beast fights to the death unless he sees a way of escape for after the creation of despair after the promise of something better there is left there’s left still one further step for psychological warfare the enemy must be led to fix the blame on his own leaders the soldier who surrenders when he could have fought on must have some excuse and he will find it if his discipline is broken down by his conviction that his own leaders are responsible for his unnecessary predicament that last step may come of itself but propaganda can help it so those are some really important steps and if you think about them if you think about them from a leadership perspective they’re very very powerful if you think about them from a business perspective they are very very powerful hmm and when you know the offense you also have to understand the defense against psychological warfare number one don’t trust the enemy remember that broadcasts and leaflets don’t necessarily come from the sources from which they claim to come from and by the way that also applies to emails articles tweets hmm social media posts Russian BOTS be critical even though a story starts off with what you know to be true don’t trust the interpretation that is tacked on to the truth and so don’t accept first interpretation you hear about the reason a battle is won or lost or the reason there isn’t any more coffee wait the first story is the best propaganda because it has no other story to overcome but it is not necessarily the best for you to believe but in general don’t trust the enemy don’t trust the enemy if he turns friendly fear Him or better understand that he’s up to no good if you are captured tell him just your name rank and serial number nothing else just because he seems friendly and well-meaning don’t spill things you think are unimportant and it wraps up with this trust only your own leaders therefore you trust them and be wise and that’s it kind of an interesting way to finish up that book is that statement trust them but be wise trust you leaders but at the same time be wise and you got to pay attention that because it’s a little counter to trust right it’s saying trust but be wise and I actually agree with that question everything be wise question everything question your leaders don’t follow people blindly you can put your trust in them sure but at the same time you have to be wise be wise to question them be wise to try and understand their decisions be wise

enough to disobey them should they choose to lead in a manner that is detrimental to the mission to the strategic objectives and to common sense and you know what you gotta be wise not just about your leaders but about everyone seek to understand seek to understand people which you do by watching them and by observing them and by listening them and you know one thing that we do people do is we spend a lot of time on output we are sending all the time we are talking all the time we are putting information out all the time learn to be on receive mode a little bit more learn to listen a little bit more learn to capture and absorb and utilize what other people reveal and when you do that you’ll garner a better understanding of them of yourself of your team of your enemy the nature of the battle itself and the nature of humans themselves so listen and learn and understand so that you can become wise because if you become wise then you can win and that wraps up this incredible book psychology for the fighting man what you should know about yourself and others all right so echo I know you’ve got some hopefully some information to tell us how to become a little bit wiser yeah in our movement down the path in our movement towards winning in all aspects of life in this total war that we are fighting on a daily basis in all directions yes sir I do what do you got we got okay jiu-jitsu is one of the many ways and now what kind of gear we’re gonna get when we do jujitsu or Jinky that’s the answer do people have not been asking me that recently that’s good that’s a hopefully it’s good only that signifies that they already know they know yeah hopefully it doesn’t signify that people are slowing down starting jujitsu actually which you know what I know from different input I’m receiving to the mote resigned not and received Mirena that people are starting to still just finished my first jiu-jitsu class got rolled oh yeah just finished my jujitsu class I’m sorry oh just finished my first stripe on that white belt oh yeah so people are getting on the path for sure yeah and stayin cuz I’m hearing about blue belts now yeah and we’re in them but we’ve been that mode for for like maybe a year almost where does people are starting to get blue belts we see blue belt Emer stripes so they are the fraud the yeah we’re seeing blue belts were three years a little over three years deep in the podcast mm-hm we should have our first hopefully potential jaakko podcast black belt within seven years is my prediction yeah yeah right yeah I would say savage ten years how long did it take maybe it took a few months before people started going okay I’m gonna start this jujitsu stuff cuz he’s guys won’t stop talking about it yeah yeah but I was going at wrestling tournaments this is this was awesome going to wrestling tournaments and having kids that are freshmen in high school so there are 13 14 years old guess what started Emma grappling a little joke called wait no little book called way the war your whole way and the way yeah yeah we’re the warrior kid got them on the path and so they started that when they were at years old two three years ago and they read way the warrior kid I want to learn how to wrestle and then the kids come up to me hey sir my name is Freddie and I started wrestling because I got into jujitsu so thank you so that’s one of the best thing that’s happened to me in a long time yeah why because I know that that kid is gonna have a legitimately better life because they know how to do jujitsu and Russell you know their life will be better so if you’re doing jujitsu you get an or GE getting or Jinky made in America and designed specifically for Aikido no for judo no for Hapkido nope designed for one thing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu that’s what it’s made for yeah another like generic reinforced by black belt by by jiu-jitsu black belt people

made it that’s legit so JIT also got some other clothes up there t-shirts sweatshirts we’re working on boots I can’t talk about that yet because then people will be me for the next whatever as we try and get we do have the machinery in place mm-hmm we’ve got models being built I have a pair I know you don’t have a picture not quite you know on the inner inner circle yeah yeah man you look really despondent when I said that’s okay I broke a bone bizarre anyway Oh kiss for you later you get all these things at origin mein kampf other stuff on there like supplements most important supplements I lift weights whatever and I’ve always had probably like maybe 15 years I would say I’ve always had like this elbow like I wouldn’t call it tendonitis although I have had tendonitis my elbow thing yeah and so when I first got in joint more fair and the krill oil you can go a win away complete right went away completely so recently I got like heavy back into Lin like man I can you can go right so it sorta starts to come back but now it’s like at this phase where I’ll feel like right now if I try to do like a Close Grip push up or something like like right now in this cold room I’ll feel it but the amount of sets that I have to do to warm it up or now reduce to one one it usually it was every single set of where it was like three four sets a warm-up that my first set I could feel it but I could it over it was like that so it’s like and I’m getting older I’m not getting younger and it seems obvious but given the way my elbow feels you know you know the reviews on people for joint warfare are awesome yeah people are they get that where something’s been bothering them for so long and they get on the joint warfare throw on the krill oil and you feel good it’s yeah that’s what makes it in my opinion the most important supplement every kind of something that allows you to work yeah exactly ever yeah Harger so true so yeah joint warfare boom get down one super krill oil some added antioxidants in there and then discipline which is it’s a combination of two things it’s a little physical energy boost and a mental cognitive increase in capacity to think so that’s discipline the drink discipline go is that but it’s in the form of a pill so or wait they call it a capsule capsule yeah it’s a capsule I told Brian at little I was like hey man discipline I’m addicted to the drink mm-hmm which I love it thank you for for helping me get this to the world however if I’m going to go up on stage and talk for two hours I can’t pound two bottles of discipline you know why it’s a real simple reason it is what it is it’s a biological reason yeah drink two liters of water you’re gonna have to go to the bathroom yes I don’t want to have to stop hey hold on a minute crowd on for 700 people I’m just gonna go hit the head real quick that’s not so took the discipline formula we made it into a capsule so now I can just pop three discipline when I’m gonna need when I’m gonna need that little edge little edge you don’t as a Jason gardener put it to me the word searching gets reduced to zero like in a word search anymore in your head you know and you’re saying stuff the so is there okay then there’s that energy drink one version right the energy drink is coming it’s not out yet well the video with JP yes or gin boom yeah clearly the energy drink is made it is made but it’s not in production yet hmm and I’m gonna go into why well the reason why it’s not in production is because of the way we are producing it which is a way that no one else is doing because the bottom line is there’s all kinds of what you call it energy there’s all kinds of energy drinks out there right now they’re not good for you the closest thing you can get to an energy drink that’s good for you is actually jockle white tea that’s the closest thing you can get because it tastes good it’s got some caffeine some antioxidants we’re taking that to the next level with the discipline go ready to drink in a can tastes delicious and it’s actually good for you yeah this is the difference so that’ll be out I’m guessing we’re probably not looking for another two months so no reason to get all excited yet I’ll let you know when it’s all out there in the meantime the discipline powder is a good variant for now but yeah the discipline go in the can it’s really it’s yeah nailed it yeah I got four samples yeah they’re

gone I like I mean I’m down I don’t drink energy drinks but if there’s like one there that like I know is gonna taste good I’m kind of I’m kind of I like those you know so that one was like oh yeah they were gone and that’s the thing is it it tastes good which is awesome it’s actually good for you you know there’s different ways just yeah so good to go also got milk you wanna get on the milk train yeah for some additional protein yeah in addition to your ribeye steaks yeah and here’s the thing like where isn’t your tomahawk rib eye steak oh yeah the other thing you need additional protein mm-hmm if you’re working yeah straight up otherwise your body what eats itself you want that to happen I’ll tell you what even if you don’t need additional protein you know what you need dessert yeah so luckily Molk is its own white what is Mork what does this mean it means really tasty nectar if that is gonna make you stronger but and you can have it for dessert we get done having for dessert you won’t get done with it and think oh I still want some ice cream no you’d be like I’m done with it and I’m done it is great we’re good you look okay so I made this here’s a new little dish mm-hmm in my little I don’t know whatever yeah so I go egg white omelet with like you know I’ll take like leftover skin normally no so you know for example my my wife made pot roast right so it’s like pot roast there’s little carrots in there yeah you know there’s potatoes in there yes so I’ll take some leftover pot roast and I’ll make an egg white omelet with the pot roast right it seems kind of what but whatever the leftovers is the most part I’ll make our omelet with it so I made it and it’s good that’s like good nutrients right there that’s a solid like post-workout whatever oh yeah tastes good too and then you know no sugar no you know it’s like legit and tastes really good so I pound that so it’s not last night the night before look pound that I’m like man I’m so not only did I get a good healthy delicious little meal that I made I’m like you know how you have so you can in the mood for some dessert yeah and in a way in a weak mind in a matter of speaking in a week you can be like hey I had such a healthy dinner yeah I can kind of you know exercise some freedom on the dessert a little bit but I mixed up the milk double win-win mom stayed on the discipline path and you’re you’re kind of full like that sometimes you eat a giant steak but you’re still even though you’re pretty full you want to have a little dessert yeah the whole little one scoop hitter yeah my little one scoop hitter was a scoop yeah and lately I will say I’ve been mixing less milk and more okay yeah oh yeah it is so yeah it’s like a little it’s a straight-up milkshake yes yeah hater as what brother feel Vaughn would say true also warrior kid monk that’s for the kids you think it’s for kids don’t you try that strawberry yeah yeah but that’s a good on this one strawberry chocolate is it that’s the only two right now right right now yeah yeah and then the strawberry that’s gonna go to the regular mode pretty soon yeah it’s coming we’re working on it also junko as a store you know stay on the path good of course stay on the path but if you want to represent while you’re on the path we got some shirts free if you want discipline equals freedom it’s a good one because two versions of that by the way it’s like all the new one you know yes and they’re both in the game fully good ways to represent some hoodies on they’re also more rash guards so you want to representing people have been representing tournaments competitions yeah you know with get after it you know the rash guard these are all yeah so religious when you see people straight representing oh yeah in the competition oh yeah big-time I’m a lot of cool so again hats flex fit hats you know I think we might discontinue the trucker hats but alright we have a zero credit for selling that well we have both truckers have and flex attend also hoodies oh wait I already said anyway go on there a taco store calm if you like something get something represent an important support it’s true also yourself Chaka white teeth okay any can yes okay a little bit of caffeine in there antioxidants deadlift eight thousand pounds that’s good it’s good like my wife deadlifts 8,000 some you know more of a mild taste compared to the energy drink now I know you mean energy drink in general no you’re you’re yeah she would not call it an energy drink I wouldn’t I would call it something else I would

call it discipline go yeah I don’t know I think yeah well the jury still I don’t know because it’s kind of an energy drink the problem is energy you know was not good for you yeah you don’t want the stigma yeah and regimes are literally bad for you yeah think about that one nonetheless jockle whitey not an energy drink it’s actual tea sort of a certified organic u-s-d-a you know certified organic so yeah you can get that one in a can or what do you call it sure loose no that’s not loose leave dry just you’re on the bags or whatever yeah that’s a good one also subscribe to the podcast if you don’t subscribe to the podcast then echo is gonna keep telling you if I don’t tell you as quickly as possible to subscribe to the podcast so do that now and don’t forget about the warrior kid podcast because your kids need to be shown the path and I hate to say this not by you know well know in addition to you telling them in addition to you trying to convince them because if you remember when you were a kid you didn’t want to listen your dad you didn’t want to listen your mom you kind of always thought well you maybe just I might look I might only be eleven years old but I think I know a little bit better than my dad right I’m sure that’s a very least he don’t understand so uncle Jake can talk to your kid get him on the path let him know what’s up you also get the warrior kids soap if the Irish branch dot-com young Aiden young ain’t making soap having his own business buying the material growing the material get some of that so that you can stay clean yeah YouTube subscribe to the YouTube channel so you can see echoes legit videos technically you don’t have to subscribe I’ll just check it out then but yeah if you want subscribe that’s a good one subscribe like and comment anyway that’s like issue for those that don’t know we do have YouTube channel if you if you’re interested in the video version if you want to echo Charles looks like yeah if you want to comment that echo looks jacked or is there is yoked sure then you can do that there don’t forget about psychological warfare it’s an album to help you get through moments of weakness by hearing pragmatic information about why you should stay on the path that is it iTunes Google Play and B 3 platforms it’s true also your home gym when you’re expanding cuz we’re always expanding I know I’m expanding yeah get your stuff gonna on it so on it comm slash Jocko good spot good equipment of all kinds for gym also information on there so yeah when you get into kettlebells cuz you got to do kettlebells kettlebells are good yes so you want some info on there boom that’s where you can get a lot of good stuff on there gonna on it calm slash choco I wrote a bunch of books hmm and if you want to get the books go to Jocko podcast calm and then click on the various books miking the dragon is a book that I wrote it’s for little kids but everyone gets something out of it and it’s a cool story that rhymes you and it’s delivered very eloquently if I don’t know if eloquent the word eloquent is even compatible with with you as it as a whole concept or whatever but I will I’ll use it very eloquent check so miking the dragons for kids also for kids way the warrior kid and way the warrior kid to which is called mark’s mission and also wave the warrior kid 3 which is called where there’s a will and that book is coming out in the spring get your kid these books because they will point them in the right direction on so many things I wish I had these books when I was a kid so badly and I hope that the kids you know read these books and get themselves on the path and if an adult you know needs to get on the path getting the discipline goes Freedom Field Manual which tells people how to get after it everybody needs to know how to get after it in my opinion it’s a good little daily read it’s not a normal book it’s different it’s very different so check that one out and then of course there is extreme ownership the first book that I wrote with my brother late babban and also we just released last year dichotomy of leadership and I’m starting to think there’s people starting to comment that the economy of leadership is now starting to emerge from the shadow of his older brother mm-hm and we’re starting to think that dichotomy leadership is gonna be a little bit more yoked little bit more jacked and may usurp the older brother man of being the one that people really dial into so

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